hello all again , captdan it is a small world as they say, it was someone playing games that night for sure, i had a number of hams listen and key up as it was coming over gmrs, i was using multiple radios at once and the one scanner was a bearcat 996xt so it was showing me the pl tone of a local gmrs system, personally i dont care what people do as long it doesnt bother me or broadcast me on ham simplex freqs from gmrs or the other way around..lol...when im in the shack i monitor lot of stuff and gmrs is one as i do have a low power system up myself for about 10 years here , i use the bigger systems in area when needed, ok guys ill keep an eye out here and everyone have a happy new year.