Thanks for the replies. First and foremost, thanks for the well wishes on our anniversary. We had a very pleaseant trip. Secondly, the Kenwoods are working! Had a couple of culprits looks like, with desense the main one. Long story short, got some distance between the radios and they are working. Seems too that the repeater closest to us is having some problems also. We can't work through it, but we tried another one and all worked perfect. I learned something new with this so it's not all bad. Thanks for the help and guidance. wayne