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    w4thm got a reaction from Remmy700P in Whats with repeater users needing permission on GMRS?   
    The responses don't surprise me. Seems counter productive towards getting people interested in a radio hobby.
     
    You want to talk money, we're currently burning in a brand new hytera ip addressable repeater going up with a DB420 antenna. Easily over $3k without counting duplexer, lightning protection, and cable.
     
    This will be at 950' in downtown Miami. Open to all. Part of the reason it's being done is the general "you stay off my repeater" vibe we picked up from looking at the local gmrs listings. It was baffling to see how unfriendly this side of the radio hobby can feel.
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    w4thm got a reaction from dhardin53 in Whats with repeater users needing permission on GMRS?   
    The responses don't surprise me. Seems counter productive towards getting people interested in a radio hobby.
     
    You want to talk money, we're currently burning in a brand new hytera ip addressable repeater going up with a DB420 antenna. Easily over $3k without counting duplexer, lightning protection, and cable.
     
    This will be at 950' in downtown Miami. Open to all. Part of the reason it's being done is the general "you stay off my repeater" vibe we picked up from looking at the local gmrs listings. It was baffling to see how unfriendly this side of the radio hobby can feel.
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    w4thm got a reaction from JarrGen in Whats with repeater users needing permission on GMRS?   
    Marc,
    I dont know what a Red Rock is. The Miami 725 is up and running. Just got on from Homestead and machine is downtown. A preamp will be added in near future to improve receive sensitivity. I have to edit listing as it ended up on backup site for .325 ham repeater which is at 750'.
     
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    The responses I've seen here are interesting and I guess I can attribute it to location. Most ham repeaters here are personally funded. The clubs are broke lol. Those putting up the machines do it for all to use. The few closed ham repeaters are looked down upon and heckled. You want a closed repeater? Get a cellphone. This mentality carried over to GMRS repeaters put up by hams.To each their own.
     
    You guys are all welcome to use the Miami 725 when in town. No permission needed.
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    w4thm got a reaction from overrulecaratmutt in Whats with repeater users needing permission on GMRS?   
    Regardless, this whole ask for permission thing seems flawed. This isn't a business radio license.
     
    You've put up a repeater on a limited shared resource (only 8 pairs) and then expect people to catch you on the air (without knowing your schedule) so they can ask if they can use it? That makes as much sense as having somebody wait at a toll booth until the attendant decides to show up for work.
     
    Suppose somebody takes the time to finally catch you on the air and ask. What exactly is accomplished? Does it satisfy the King? Does the King approve or will the King go have to chase a baofeng on vox that's been strapped to an ice cream truck because the King behaved like an Oaf? Let's be honest here. The only thing this permission thing is doing is feeding an ego.
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    w4thm got a reaction from overrulecaratmutt in Whats with repeater users needing permission on GMRS?   
    The responses don't surprise me. Seems counter productive towards getting people interested in a radio hobby.
     
    You want to talk money, we're currently burning in a brand new hytera ip addressable repeater going up with a DB420 antenna. Easily over $3k without counting duplexer, lightning protection, and cable.
     
    This will be at 950' in downtown Miami. Open to all. Part of the reason it's being done is the general "you stay off my repeater" vibe we picked up from looking at the local gmrs listings. It was baffling to see how unfriendly this side of the radio hobby can feel.
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    w4thm got a reaction from wrjc901 in Whats with repeater users needing permission on GMRS?   
    The responses don't surprise me. Seems counter productive towards getting people interested in a radio hobby.
     
    You want to talk money, we're currently burning in a brand new hytera ip addressable repeater going up with a DB420 antenna. Easily over $3k without counting duplexer, lightning protection, and cable.
     
    This will be at 950' in downtown Miami. Open to all. Part of the reason it's being done is the general "you stay off my repeater" vibe we picked up from looking at the local gmrs listings. It was baffling to see how unfriendly this side of the radio hobby can feel.
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    w4thm got a reaction from smalpierre in Whats with repeater users needing permission on GMRS?   
    The responses don't surprise me. Seems counter productive towards getting people interested in a radio hobby.
     
    You want to talk money, we're currently burning in a brand new hytera ip addressable repeater going up with a DB420 antenna. Easily over $3k without counting duplexer, lightning protection, and cable.
     
    This will be at 950' in downtown Miami. Open to all. Part of the reason it's being done is the general "you stay off my repeater" vibe we picked up from looking at the local gmrs listings. It was baffling to see how unfriendly this side of the radio hobby can feel.
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    w4thm got a reaction from thehamnerd in Whats with repeater users needing permission on GMRS?   
    I gotta say i'm still shocked over the general attitude of gmrs repeater owners and hams.
     
    "Well, I built it!" - good for you, so have many hams without club funds.
     
    "I paid for my license." - hams have to study for theirs. This in a way guarantees some level of competence.
     
    "I don't want yahoos or shenanigans on my repeater." - yeah, because yahoos always ask before goofing off on a freq.
     
    The attitude sucks. I'm standing by that. Unlike ham radio which has hundreds of repeater pairs, gmrs has only a handful. If there's anywhere that could benefit from some comraderie, its gmrs.
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    w4thm got a reaction from jerrytheyounger in Whats with repeater users needing permission on GMRS?   
    Marc,
    I dont know what a Red Rock is. The Miami 725 is up and running. Just got on from Homestead and machine is downtown. A preamp will be added in near future to improve receive sensitivity. I have to edit listing as it ended up on backup site for .325 ham repeater which is at 750'.
     
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    The responses I've seen here are interesting and I guess I can attribute it to location. Most ham repeaters here are personally funded. The clubs are broke lol. Those putting up the machines do it for all to use. The few closed ham repeaters are looked down upon and heckled. You want a closed repeater? Get a cellphone. This mentality carried over to GMRS repeaters put up by hams.To each their own.
     
    You guys are all welcome to use the Miami 725 when in town. No permission needed.
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    w4thm reacted to axorlov in GMRS is the only Paid option for general repeater use.   
    FRS is a Family Radio Service. As in: you buy the (part 95) radios, you blabber on them, no restrictions. Families use them on camping, fishing, hiking trips, on playgrounds, on county fairs, in shopping malls. Business can use FRS if it suites the needs, like if you are a construction guy on the top of the 5-story building tired of yelling silly at your crew below. Or you are an employee at the valet parking lot.
     
    Proper certified FRS radios have fixed antennas. Anyone can monitor and listen on FRS frequencies. Anyone can perfectly transmit on FRS frequencies using FRS radio, including HAM operators.
     
    Illegal radios exist and will always exist, just like illegal guns and illegal drugs. And illegal speeding. And illegal fishing.
     
    To require to end FRS or pay for FRS license because your operations are inconvenienced, is very wrong, even if you paid $70 for 10 years.
     
    Amateur operators (HAMs) are not vital for the national security. It's a hobby, just like knitting or cat grooming. Nuclear subs, healthy economy, transportation network, energy independence, free press, sane leadership are vital for national security. You know what else is vital - a clear head on top of every citizen's shoulders.

     
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    w4thm reacted to berkinet in Intentional repeater jamming and how to deal with it   
    You all do realize, if the jammer(s) did get the PL times from MyGMRS, they are probably reading this thread and likely enjoying the attention.
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    w4thm reacted to marcspaz in Intentional repeater jamming and how to deal with it   
    I know this is going to sound strange, but I have had to deal with this several times in the past. Fixing it on their end, psychologically, usually works best.
     
    First, never do or say anything on the air that would give the troublemakers an indication that they are impacting you. That is what they want... to know they are trolling you.
     
    The next thing to do is to make them think they are having zero affect on you. On repeater systems, We have gotten 3 or 4 people together in a parking lot and all started talking to each other on the mobiles, via the repeater. Even though jammers were jamming the repeater, we can all hear each other directly and just keep talking on the radio, having a full convo. Whenever the jammer lets his/her mic up and hears everyone talking as if nothing is happening, they start to realize that they are not impacting you. Then, they give up and go away.
     
    We do that on HF all the time too. We get some knucklehead try to cause interference on frequency, but most of the guys in the club are friends, we we get on the phone and talk over the phone in a conf call and on the radio at the same time. Me and my buddy Danny only live 35 miles apart and both have 1,500 watt stations. When someone tries to interfere with us, we just talk right over them.
     
    Using the methods I mention... usually 2 or 3 minutes of not getting the attention they want, and get get bored and go away. Lot easier than calling the FCC, who rarely does anything.
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    w4thm reacted to marcspaz in Whats with repeater users needing permission on GMRS?   
    Man... it kills me to see people keep saying that GMRS is not a hobby but Amateur Radio is.  It's like people forget the meaning of words and how subjective they can be.
     
    First, I have to say, GMRS and FRS use can be a hobby. That includes rag-chew and anything else you can legally do on GMRS.  GMRS can also be utilitarian.  What makes it a hobby or utility is how YOU use it.  That's it.  Nothing else.
     
    I would wager to state the opinion that Amateur Radio is far more utilitarian than GMRS would ever be.  Just because you can legally conduct business on GMRS and FRS doesn't take away that fact that for many private owners, it's purely an entertainment device.  It also doesn't take away the utility value of Amateur Radio.
     
    Amateur radio is called such because of non-commercial exchanges, and no other reason.  The organization and practice of amateur radio has led the world for more than a century with new inventions of methods for moving data, messaging and voice comms.  There is wireless experimentation, self-training in electronics engineering, private recreational use, and emergency communications.  If that isn't less a hobby and more utilitarian, I don't know what is.  Radiosport, contesting and rag-chewing is just a small part of Amateur Radio culture.  And again, what makes it a hobby or a service is how YOU use it.
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    w4thm got a reaction from berkinet in Whats with repeater users needing permission on GMRS?   
    Marc,
    I dont know what a Red Rock is. The Miami 725 is up and running. Just got on from Homestead and machine is downtown. A preamp will be added in near future to improve receive sensitivity. I have to edit listing as it ended up on backup site for .325 ham repeater which is at 750'.
     
    -----------------------------------------------------
     
    The responses I've seen here are interesting and I guess I can attribute it to location. Most ham repeaters here are personally funded. The clubs are broke lol. Those putting up the machines do it for all to use. The few closed ham repeaters are looked down upon and heckled. You want a closed repeater? Get a cellphone. This mentality carried over to GMRS repeaters put up by hams.To each their own.
     
    You guys are all welcome to use the Miami 725 when in town. No permission needed.
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    w4thm got a reaction from berkinet in Just FYI on used radios up for auction   
    Just looked up the 4740, it's a familiar face! I have one buried at my moms place somewhere. Early October we have a hamfest in Melbourne Fl. If I spot one in the cheap pile I'll grab it and let you know.
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    w4thm got a reaction from marcspaz in Whats with repeater users needing permission on GMRS?   
    Marc,
    I dont know what a Red Rock is. The Miami 725 is up and running. Just got on from Homestead and machine is downtown. A preamp will be added in near future to improve receive sensitivity. I have to edit listing as it ended up on backup site for .325 ham repeater which is at 750'.
     
    -----------------------------------------------------
     
    The responses I've seen here are interesting and I guess I can attribute it to location. Most ham repeaters here are personally funded. The clubs are broke lol. Those putting up the machines do it for all to use. The few closed ham repeaters are looked down upon and heckled. You want a closed repeater? Get a cellphone. This mentality carried over to GMRS repeaters put up by hams.To each their own.
     
    You guys are all welcome to use the Miami 725 when in town. No permission needed.
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