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#21 Elkhunter521

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 05:23 PM

Ok, to clarify my original request. A GMRS radio, with channels 15 - 22 simplex and duplex (repeater capable). Wide band, above 25 watt on tx.
With the ability to set any tone or no tone on tx and rx.
Still at $ 150 .
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Be vewy vewy quiet.
I'm listening to my wadio!


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Posted 07 April 2019 - 10:16 AM

I don't know of anybody that champions the use, of Part 97 radios on GMRS. I have however championed the use, of Part 90 radios on GMRS as that service has as strong or stronger specs. Recent changes to the FCC wording state an operator my operate equipment that is certified in another service, part 97 equipment is not certified. Furthermore the FCC has commented about the use of HAM radios on GMRS and will enforce action if one is caught. You can read more below, I am sure others on this site will agree that non certified equipment has no place on GMRS.

 

http://www.arrl.org/...mitters-on-gmrs

 

They actually have to put in effort to "catch" someone.  They don't have the manpower or resources to perform such actions on a wide scale and would have to wait until someone caused some issues large enough to get reported.  

 

The problem with that is you're never going to find anyone who is going to be able to tell someone is using a Baofeng on GMRS anyway, at least not with any certainty.  So what's there for the FCC to track down?  

 

If it takes them the better part of a decade to make a "Move" against well known identified offenders on the HF bands, billy bob and his kids talking on GMRS/MUR/FRS on uncertified equipment. wont' even be a blip on their radar. 

 

I don't have the UV50X3, but do have a UV50X2 that I use in my Jeep for a mobile radio.  The only gripe I have with it, is IMO it needs a lower power setting.  All it has is low an high with Low being 20 to 25 watts and high being between 65 and 75 watts depending on where you are at on the spectrum, it's marketed as a 50 watt unit by the way.  


A pile of "cheap Chinese radios", BF888s, UV5Rs, UV82s, KGUV8Ds, BFF8HP, UV50X2, and a few "good" radios, Yeasu FT310 (airband/nav), Yeasu FT90R (no longer in mobile service used as a base radio)


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Posted 03 November 2019 - 09:18 AM

Interesting power readings. I have tested 3 of the UV-50X2's the first put out 32watts, the second just died in about 30 seconds bouncing between 0 and 9 watts and the third only output 21 watts.

I was going to get the x1 for GMRS use but if it's the same unit just locked out... I think I will pass and am looking at the Midland MTX-400 instead.
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Posted 03 November 2019 - 09:42 AM

Interesting power readings. I have tested 3 of the UV-50X2's the first put out 32watts, the second just died in about 30 seconds bouncing between 0 and 9 watts and the third only output 21 watts.

I was going to get the x1 for GMRS use but if it's the same unit just locked out... I think I will pass and am looking at the Midland MTX-400 instead.

 

I can't comment on the UV50Xx radios since I've never used one. However, I can comment on the importance (or lack thereof) of power ratings.  While overall output power is certainly a factor in a radio, the actual accuracy of the power rating it is probably not the number one factor. A difference of 18 watts is less than a 2db difference. You can probably improve your transmission AND reception by at least 2db by using better coax and a better antenna placed in a better location (I.e.usually a taller mast).  Also, even if the radio output the full 50 watts, is it on channel or spread across a wide frequency range with lots of spurious emissions.

 

Personally, before worrying too much about power, I'd want to make sure the transmitter was clean, on frequency and within the expected bandwidth (wide or narrow) and I'd pay close attention to the receiver, particularly weak signal detection and adjacent channel rejection.  I'd also make sure the radio had the operational features I needed, was easily programmable, had any external interfaces I might want and had decent build quality.

 

But, back to the power issue, one thing to check is your power meter. If you are using a low-cost "CB meter" you will not get accurate readings at 460mHz. However, a radio failing at the get-go would seem to indicate possible quality issues. 

 

UPDATE:  You might want to look at the Amazon negative comments (15%) on the UV-50X2


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Posted 04 November 2019 - 11:10 AM

They actually have to put in effort to "catch" someone.  They don't have the manpower or resources to perform such actions on a wide scale and would have to wait until someone caused some issues large enough to get reported.  

 

The problem with that is you're never going to find anyone who is going to be able to tell someone is using a Baofeng on GMRS anyway, at least not with any certainty.  So what's there for the FCC to track down?  

 

If it takes them the better part of a decade to make a "Move" against well known identified offenders on the HF bands, billy bob and his kids talking on GMRS/MUR/FRS on uncertified equipment. wont' even be a blip on their radar. 

 

I don't have the UV50X3, but do have a UV50X2 that I use in my Jeep for a mobile radio.  The only gripe I have with it, is IMO it needs a lower power setting.  All it has is low an high with Low being 20 to 25 watts and high being between 65 and 75 watts depending on where you are at on the spectrum, it's marketed as a 50 watt unit by the way.  

this software can be used to adjust power levels to your liking BTECH UV-25X2 and UV-50X2 Squelch Engineer Software


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Posted 25 November 2019 - 01:46 PM

If you're buying this radio for GMRS b/c of the fancy bells and whistles, just don't. My experience (as a former Baofeng addict) is to look elsewhere. While the radio might have a very palatable price tag, with a fancy color screen, twenty bands, customizable button sounds, roger beeps, voice echo, recording of 1000 hours, whatever, etc, the RF performance will be, like most of the cheap Chinese junk, inadequate, (for the lack of a more blunt word) ...  That's their tactic, they can't compete with the US/European/Japanese made radios in the RF performance game (which is the thing that matters the most on a radio) so what do they do? They lower the price and add a ton of fancy (and mostly useless in the end) gadgets so the inexperienced customer bites.

 

You're better off buying used commercial mobiles/portables that are undisputedly legal to use in the UHF GMRS band, or whatever band you are going to use them, (b/c some of those cheap Chinese radios is not 100% clear if they are really type accepted or not, etc). 

 

Personally I really like Vertex Standard radios, they come down in price quite a bit, the VX-5500 and VX-6000 are pretty decent radios, with hot receivers... etc. Vertex radios have free programming software, all you need is the cable, which might add to the cost, but other than that the radio RF will be leaps and bounds superior to anything cheap made in China.

 

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