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If President Radio comes out with GMRS, more likely I'll get one.
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If President radio goes GMRS, 100% I'll buy one from them.
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12 minutes ago, WRWK524 said:
I'm located about 50 miles north of Raleigh, NC. Elevation is about 400 feet above sea level.
I do like the Anytone radio, I use it for a base station when it's not in my vehicle. It would be nice if it put out 50 Watts but wattage isn't everything. I usually use my CB in the car since there is close to zero traffic on GMRS around this area, and no repeater within range, and my CB has a greater range in the car, and more people use CB around here than they do GMRS. The AT-778UV radio has a very clean transmit and receive audio. I also have an Anytone AT-6666 as a base station and it gets very good reports on how clean the audio is. Both my Anytone radios are a good value for what they are. No problems with either in the few years I've had them.
The only thing I havent proven on this radio is what kind of heat does it do and a mid summer. Most of the radios I have and had, its either has a built in cooling fan or retro fitted. I notice it was beginning to heat up after 30 minutes of communication. which is actually not bad. But the summer is the real test!
Yes I saw there are lots of cb users in your area. This guy really blew my mind. Pretty sure you might know him...
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5 hours ago, WRWK524 said:
FYI: I too have the Anytone AT-778UV and it draws 3.25 amps on low power, 6.0 amps on mid power, and 8.25 amps on high power. I just checked it with my amp clamp.
Amps x Volts = Watts.
So if the voltage is 13.8 and the radio is on high power, the wattage it draws is 13.8 x 8.25 = 113.85 Watts.
So the radio presumably puts out 25 Watts of RF power on high, while DRAWING 113.85 Watts from the power supply.
I tested the range from the radio installed in my vehicle, to my base station, and I got about 6 miles before it started to lose reception. That's using the Browning BR-450 NMO antenna and a discone antenna about 25 feet off the ground for my base station antenna. That was on the highway which had small hills along the way so your results may vary.
I live in a 725 ft elevation. Its a good height the the bad news is just a hill side which there are certain part which are blocked. I check my mobile radio and it was only putting out 23 watts in the targeted GMRS frequency. Just like what you said. it has to be a constant 13.8v and good amperage to achieve the high capacity transmission. I also notice that the anytone has a very quiet receiving mode. I'm not really talking about squelch but the RF gain itself is nice and clean plus the speaker has an excellent clear and warm audio like how the auxiliary speakers are. Its very easy to communicate even on a lower speaker volume. I'm just curious,, where is your '20?
Edited: Okay I got it now and youre in the right side of mid west.
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44 minutes ago, WRWK524 said:
Get a NMO mag mount and you can swap CB and GMRS when needed. This is my setup and both of them have a 1.1 SWR on this mag mount on SUV roof, which has a less than ideal sunroof too. Very easy to change out and the mag mount is VERY strong.
https://www.amazon.com/Browning-BR-450-Land-Mobile-Antenna/dp/B0043310ZO
That looks like a good setup. I saw the 49 inch cb whip antenna. Its a very good height for CB. I already have magnetic mount on my mobile. I just came back from the road. I was talking to my wife using my mobile radio and antenna while she was using a hand held at home inside the room. Its very clear! The Evergreen museum is 17.2 miles from my house.
But if I use the same hand held she has, the farthest Ive tried it was 3 miles.
I dont know how far can my mobile go to my home base yet. But from the home base, I can go really far without even using the repeater. I'll just pop in the Wilson magnamount if I need to.
I made a mistake in the description earlier. I was using the anytone in the mobile. Cant believe that radio can communicate that well in such distance.
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On 12/1/2023 at 10:08 AM, kidphc said:
Readings? I was actually asking what meter.
Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalk
Ooops.
I'm using the old school analog meter. Pretty much I'm done with the antenna setup. But the meter is still hooked up as I'm using it with a switch box so I can see the modulation swing. Both base antenna and the and mobile is phenomenal. I can easily hit Corvallis straight from base. I love this radio. Its got 2 simultaneous-separate, volume, transmit and receive indicator, squelch and RF Gain adjustments all in analog analog form. Even the transmit and receive is much clearer than my other mobile radio.
The only thing that I don't like about home base is going to the roof of my house. Its not like 35 years ago. It will look ridiculous for someone in my age messing around with antennas especially if my neighbors see me doing it. Its a good thing that I only had the antenna sitting on a 10 footer mast.
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3 hours ago, CyborgAlienWRYG738 said:
I've got one in the shed now wasting space... Too bulky you need to have a stout mount for it, it's basically overkill beyond overkill, unless your linear in your truck is pushing like 10kW or something like that. If that's the case, why advertise it?!?
Its a transfer antenna for camping. It should be good for high elevation.
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59 minutes ago, CyborgAlienWRYG738 said:
Yes, it's rated for 100W so it should suffice, if you're going to Wilson's antenna store, not the leather shop, then by all means ask them, they're better informed then me, I don't have that option near here.
100 bucks for the Wilson 1000 with magnamount
37 bucks for the Tram Cat Twin Coil CB Antenna (TCT-9)
they shipped both free. I couldn't pass it up. That 1000 should work perfect on the Prius grocery getter.
BTW: I been dreaming about this tram twin coil antenna since when I was young. Its 64 inch tall. All I need is to screw this on my pickup truck because its all set up with an excellent mounting.
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On 12/11/2023 at 8:46 AM, CyborgAlienWRYG738 said:
Or the Lil Wil, unless you have a need for the increased power rating . The K40 is made by the same company that makes Wilson antennas and they're the lower quality brand. I believe Stricker is the other brand that's supposed to be better than Wilson but, I wouldn't know, I've always used tried and true Wilson's, due to the 1 K40 I used breaking on me back in the 80s. Wilson's only lose their top thing which seems to make them better, or it has mine anyways, every time.
Okay. They have a both Wilsons that's about 35 miles from me. I need this antenna for my travel so I'll take the time to drive there and pick up one.
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On 11/16/2023 at 12:03 PM, CyborgAlienWRYG738 said:
I'd rather just use 1 antenna so as to keep the roof as clear of scratches as possible. Most bands are "listen only" just GMRS is transmit band and requires the most gain and best signal response for distance. The rest are relatively local frequencies.
Going back to our last conversation in the cb antenna. I need to fetch me a magnamount today. So do you think I should just go with the Wilson 1000 rather than the K40?
Thanks.
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25 minutes ago, WRUU653 said:
Why not? My truck's lighter sockets are rated at 120 watts. Stock. Nothing out of the ordinary. Quiz, can you tell me how many amps that is? It's a rhetorical question. That means I'm not interested in a response because clearly you don't get it.
Not knowing things isn't a crime. In fact that is what has been great about this community. That people help people and they become educated. You got to want info though and you are something else.
Let's recap. When you told us it was pulling 23 watts on 13.8 volts, well you are the one that told us it was less than two amps (regardless if you realize that or not, math/ohms law, you should try it). When @nokones asked for some clarification (because your statment made no sense) you insult him. That's a great way to show us how absolutely brilliant you are. double down and insult the guy. Then @Sshannon tries to explain because clearly their was no need to be insulting people and you insult him and say he's wrong. No he is not and being loud and insulting dosn't change that.
I don't understand why this forum has taken a turn for the worst with all the insultling lately but I can pin point the people doing it. It would be nice if you could try being a better human here on the forum. Regardless you are going on my ignore list which does make this a nice Sunday morning indeed.
You're not even a part of this and as I remember. You barge in to one of my previous comment and telling me to use the repeater openly with no need for permission needed. But that wasn't the case. To begin with, that wasn't even what I was talking about and secondly, I wont even tell anyone "forcefully" what to do unless I was asked. I understand those things even my conversation with your friend. And I already answered his questions. If there was anyone being insulted, I didn't ask for it. They did it to themselves. You are biased and I see this om this forum. When there is a situation, you and your buddy are always in the middle of it. I consider that normal and I wont be a part of it. Its plain and simple to ignore someone. That's what I would do. Because the last thing I want to do is to create a friction with anyone. Thread easy!
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14 minutes ago, Sshannon said:
How did you measure that?
Is this for your Anytone AT-778UV?
Enjoy the Sunday.. I did.
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3 hours ago, Sshannon said:
You’re still missing the point. You said that your manual said you must provide a 12 amp source. Then you said your radio draws 23 watts, a number that doesn’t make sense. That’s what Kenny was telling you. Kenny explained that’s less than 2 amps. Now you’re talking about your radio using 20-30 amps, numbers which still make no sense for a GMRS radio, even while transmitting.
My mobile ham radio outputs 100 watts of RF. At 13.8 volts it does that while drawing 23 amps, which is a power consumption of 317.4 watts. That’s a power efficiency of 31.5%. The rest of the power is mostly converted to heat and some light. This radio would require a direct connection to the battery.
During receive my radio draws 0.6 amps (at 13.8 v), which means it consumes 8.28 watts.
So, where did your “23 watt” figure come from? Is that something you measured on an RF wattmeter? If so, that’s not the power “draw” but rather the output power.
And if that’s the output power, then your radio probably doesn’t need a 12 amp circuit.
12 amps would be a reasonable current requirement for a radio with a 50 watt RF output if it were as efficient/inefficient as my FT-891.
But, if your radio only puts out an actual 23 watts (RF Output), and if it operates at the same inefficiency level as mine (31.5% of the input power is radiated as RF power), then the actual power consumption while transmitting is 73 watts, which represents a current consumption of about 5.29 amps, a value that’s easily delivered by your cigarette lighter socket.
So Kenny was trying to get you to understand that you were using numbers and units that simply didn’t make sense the way you used them and in return you accused him of drinking.
I can see why he might want to.
Ehhhh wrong again! you read wrong. Its very clear what I said "The other thing I found out is when I was reading the radio manual, I'm required to connect it to a minimum of 12 amp so I can achieve the maximum steady output. It was drawing 23 watts on my 13.8 power supply at home." So it means, i wont be able to use a cigarette lighter socket. I have to wire it all the way to the battery."
Its very clear that in order for me to run maximum wattage I have to do a full power. Are all right man?
I wont barge into a conversation that you don't even understand to begin with. I wasn't here to change someones life. I'm just quietly making a conversation to somebody. If you feel confident in using a 2 amp power supply on a 23-25 watt. go ahead, Manufacturers wouldn't recommend you to use 12 amp power supply for no reason. They tested that product on different and maximum conditions which varies in power consumption. I'm not stopping you for what you want or think and In fact I wont even say anything. I think that makes a lot of sense rather than pulling out the famous word "It doesn't." LoL.... Keep it up man. I'm a quick learner.
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2 hours ago, Sshannon said:
The thing is that what you wrote is confusing. If your radio draws 23 watts, the current at that time is 23 w/13.8 v, which is less than 2 amps.
Nope, Kenny is exactly right.
So maybe you don’t understand what he explained?
To make it simple read your manual correctly. There must be a reason why you're using 20-30 amps than 2. Not unless if you wanna power up a 23-25 watt radio with a 2 amp wall-wart or less. I just wanna remind you that receive and transmit are 2 different power draw. But if you're happy with 2 amps, go for it. I'm not in the position tell you what to do. Yowhiee!
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14 hours ago, nokones said:
Do you mean 23 amps or watts? If you're pulling only 23 watts, "that is only a couple of amps at the most." What is your radio rated for RF Power Output? A radio on standy/idling and/or receiving normally won't exceed an amp and a half. What is your power draw when transmitting and how many RF watts output would that be?
Are you alright man? You must be doing something else besides drinking...
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22 minutes ago, Sshannon said:
Use an angle connector to take the stress off but be sure it’s a high quality one like this Amphenol. Don’t be lured into buying a cheap nickel plated one. This is the good stuff:
Amphenols are always great. I had a slide-in PL-59 (non-threaded) and they worked really great for mobile / home setup with sliders. I'll end up buying that if I need it. As I follow the recommendation of the builder, he's explaining alot of things that he learned upon building the antenna. I even spoke to him in lightly painting or coating the antenna with a non metallic paints. Its all all in here but I couldn't find much time yet to sit down and concentrate on it. Its quite difficult doing all these things while working and taking care of other stuffs. They get in the way sometimes.
Here is the video....
http://www.jpole-antenna.com/2011/01/04/painting-the-j-pole-antenna/
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8 hours ago, Flameout said:
I have 50' of Wireman CQ1000 running to the Comet 712EFC and for the DB404, I have 25' of Andrew Heliax Ldf4-50a coupled with about 12' of Andrew Heliax fsj4-50b
I'm still experimenting to see what works best, but with the limited gmrs activity in my area, it's tough to get feedback.
I wanna get the similar LMR-400 especially the solid core. I end up getting the LMR-240 for my initial setup because I know I will be going back and forth making adjustments. So as soon as I ironed the whole setup and I'm happy, that will be the time I will guy the best cable I can reach. But honestly I should be okay in this category or the highest RG8 since my setup is not even 50 foot cable. My antenna will be sitting right on top of our bonus room. The other nit pick the j-poles female connector is not really as rigid. It will be a big fight to muscle an LMR-400 and connecting it with minimal stress. Right there on just my test connection with the J-pole antenna sitting on my window pane. I can easily hit the repeater from my house really clear. Cant wait to get antenna mast and put it up soon. When I adjust my radio to full power, I get exactly 50 watts but that's only 4 feet of RG-8 mini from my old SWR meter. I can hear the power supply really working as I key up after 3 minutes even its a 30 amp.
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Looking good. How many feet total. BTW I use to be in my moms roof and so as friends over 100 times. My new house, I don't think I can do it anymore. Signs of times. I'll probably end up renting a man lift.
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1 hour ago, CyborgAlienWRYG738 said:
Good to know that it's a good antenna and works good for you. I'm definitely going to get one too, as soon as I get the money, until then my Tram is going to have to suffice. Considering how well it is doing. I get really good signals with it SWR on the repeaters is 1.0-1.03 so I don't need anything else for now. When I get my mobile, I will get a new base and that antenna to go with it. I found the perfect base from them too, which has the perfect wiring for the GMRS band
That's excellent reading on your antenna.
The coverage on mine is just 450 to 470. I was trying to get up to 467.700 and down. Mine wont go that wide unless I let the SWR go to 1:7 in the upper. But in reality most of my transmission is just on the 462 side. If I had a power mike, maybe they can fetch me a bit farther. Enchanted Forest is 39 miles away. I wish I had home antenna up but the mast is still on its way from shipping. That's okay with me since its just a common item shipped on a holidays rush. I pretty much have everything I need except for 1 still on the road. I have a 9mm that I ordered 2 weeks ago and they just sent it the other day. According to the tracking it got stuck in Portland. The last thing I wouldn't want is that thing gets delivered at the wrong address....
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On 12/5/2023 at 12:23 AM, CyborgAlienWRYG738 said:
If I can get the financing worked out I'm going to see if I can get one as well. Hopefully sooner than later. I'm not sure that things will be the same in the next couple of months, let alone years.
I finally got the Laird B4505CN mobile antenna. I tuned it this morning and tested it. Amazing my mobile can transmit over 35 miles using a walkie-talkie over. I try to get the minimal and in between SWR I can in the 462.550 (1:15) to 467.725 (1:6 SWR) . Cant be too ambitious and in reality I'm just gonna be around the 462 frequency. I'm just a bit bummed that the rod is not shoved all the way down to the base. I took off 1/8. Anyways using the walkie-talkie for a test run, I was able to find the clearest, less static mounting location where I can mount the the Anytone radio without detaching and and relocating the face. I cant wait to install this as soon as I finish programming some of the channels and the repeater. I can easily hit the repeater in 18 miles. The only thing is one of the good repeater is is using DCS. I'm nit sure if my radio will connect to it. Although I have a setting to the tone number he has. The other thing I found out is when I was reading the radio manual, I'm required to connect it to a minimum of 12 amp so I can achieve the maximum steady output. It was drawing 23 watts on my 13.8 power supply at home. So it means, i wont be able to use a cigarette lighter socket. I have to wire it all the way to the battery.
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3 hours ago, CyborgAlienWRYG738 said:
Although I'm hoping to get what I can during the rush for companies to make it for next year, I don't worry about it I get it before Christmas at this point, as long as I can get it. With everything running low on stock, I'm already awaiting until next year on some things, that are no longer available to purchase to see if they ever return to the shelves or what's replacing them. As long as they can get purchased by my birthday, (the 19th,) I can usually get them before Christmas or New Year's shipped via FedEx.
Hi,
yes I hear you. There are some things that I didnt want to buy but I was forced to because I can see whats going on with the economy. I'm not really sure where its heading in the next 5 year but I just don't to wait in the end that I couldn't even afford it. Its a good thing I have 2 jobs but even thous its still hard. On top of these communication gear that I got 75%, there are things that I needed to do at the house including emergency power backup, I got the generator that will fire up my house and I got it down somewhere. Anyways O can run all the lights on my house, the big refrigerators, 1 upright freezer, backup computer, 2 box fan, 1 heater furnace. No the AC nor microwave although I have a 3 large stock LPG, 20 gallon gas for car and generator in the shed, 2 burner in case our natural gas cut off. I can power up 1700 watts all the consumption breakdown I did in 4-1/2 to 5 days. My generator runs on dual gas or propane and I also have an orifice unit if I want to run it on natural gas...... Anyways I'll be back a bit later. I have to go down to FedEx to send something before it hits too late. Take it easy..
I didn
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Hey I'm a new guy. what do I know..?
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22 hours ago, CyborgAlienWRYG738 said:
CBs are different than Ham radios, apparently. Though from my understanding, past models of CB radios also had issues with power output, which is where the term "peak and tuning" the radios came from. A little bit of work and it's corrected.
I've never had a Midland that didn't burn up on me. Why I'm very hesitant to get one of their GMRS radios.
The Cobra 19 I have, (version IV,) isn't any better than the Midland, though at least it didn't fry, that I'm aware of. I've had just about every model of Cobra mobile they've ever produced and the 25's, 29's, and the 148's are their best models. Still, the Unidens, IMHO, sound better to me, though, aside from the 125, they're the same radios and have the same internals. (They don't, or at least didn',t make an equivalent to the 148.)
BTW: I ordered the Laird B4505CN. Its coming in on Thursday. I'll deal with the return of the other one the next day. I'm so busy at work and all the stuff right now. If you have any plans of buying something, I just wanna remind you that X'mas is just around the corner. I did what I had to do the whole year to get what I need before the traffic jam. I am predicting in the next 2-3 days, it might be a difficulty getting any orders for X'mas due to the holiday rush..
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On 12/3/2023 at 9:47 AM, OffRoaderX said:
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Sorry to ambush the threading. I just need to ask your opinion and experience in improving the mic audio of an Anytone At-778uv radio. If I can wire the audio-path of a D104 active desk mic to the radio I mentioned. Will it improve in any way?
Thanks
Amateur radio maker getting into the GMRS market.
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Could you adopt a mic on lets say the Alinco DR-135T without or lesser controller feature on the stock mic itself?