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  4. New 2022 GMRS/FRS Band Plan

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Nope.... Dude... words have meaning.  You can't transmit on a repeater output unless you're on the input.  You even highlighted it above.  You doubling down on the wrong thing doesn't make you correct.

     

    Really, that's news to me and lots of other radio folks.. The only way to be heard on the OUTPUT is to transmit on the Repeater INPUT, so NO SIMPLEX on the OUTPUTS, Are you SURE???. Oh this is getting funny and stupid at the same time... Sheesh

  5. New 2022 GMRS/FRS Band Plan

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Russ... this is 100% factually incorrect. 

     

    Based on Code of Federal Regulations, FRS radios are not permitted to transmit on the repeater input frequencies, therefore will never be heard on a repeat output.  They are explicitly only allowed to transmit on the allocated simplex frequencies.  In fact, the ability to transmit on any frequency beyond the 22 simplex frequencies assigned to the FRS would automatically disqualify any transceiver from getting its part 95 FRS certification. 

     

    Only part 95 certified GMRS radios are permitted to transmit on the repeater input frequencies, and that requires a GMRS operator's license. 

     

    Considering I have spent the last 22 years as independent consultant for the US federal government (17+ for local government), specializing in providing emergency communications sustainment and restoration support to critical communications infrastructure, I am pretty sure I am a bit more in tune with what is happening in the industry, than what you are giving me credit for.

     

    "Considering I have spent the last 22 years as independent consultant for the US federal government (17+ for local government), specializing in providing emergency communications sustainment and restoration support to critical communications infrastructure, I am pretty sure I am a bit more in tune with what is happening in the industry, than what you are giving me credit for".

     

    Hmm, that might explain some things :)

  6. New 2022 GMRS/FRS Band Plan

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Russ... this is 100% factually incorrect. 

     

    Based on Code of Federal Regulations, FRS radios are not permitted to transmit on the repeater input frequencies.  The are explicitly only allow to transmit on the allocated simplex frequencies.  In fact, the ability to transmit on any frequency beyond the 22 simplex frequencies assigned to the FRS would automatically disqualify any transceiver from getting its part 95 FRS certification. 

     

    Only part 95 certified GMRS radios are permitted to transmit on the repeater input frequencies, and that requires a GMRS operator's license. 

     

    Considering I have spent the last 22 years as independent consultant for the US federal government (17+ for local government), specializing in providing emergency communications sustainment and restoration support to critical communications infrastructure, I am pretty sure I am a bit more in tune with what is happening in the industry, than what you are giving me credit for.

     

    YOU Didn't read what I typed, let's try again.. "Hint: FRS Radios can now transmit on the Repeater Outputs!!! The FCC Folks know there are lots of Hams playing radio on GMRS, and trying to HOG spectrum.. GMRS is referred to as the "73 centimeter" ham band... NO One here is fooling anyone".

     

    Care to retract your previous statement???

  7. New 2022 GMRS/FRS Band Plan

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Marc,

     

    I thought you were a little smarter than that... I never said I had insider information, the writing is on the wall, you just gotta open your eyes after you pull your head out of the sand :)

     

    Hint: FRS Radios can now transmit on the Repeater Outputs!!! The FCC Folks know there are lots of Hams playing radio on GMRS, and trying to HOG spectrum.. GMRS is referred to as the "73 centimeter" ham band... NO One here is fooling anyone..

     

    73,

    Russ 

     

    Next!!!

     

    Anyone else have comments for baby Russ :)

  8. New 2022 GMRS/FRS Band Plan

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    So we went from childish to vague ominous threats that are as empty as space, as if you have some kind of control or insight as to what the future holds for the spectrum and its users. Nice!

     

    So, here's a little secret about how many of our laws are made and regulatory agencies plan. Big business polls the people to find the largest marketable demographic that is likely to buy something. Then they look at likelihood and expense to deliver in a specific timeframe, estimate time to profitability and anticipated duration of product or service lifetime. If they think the can make a lot of money soon, the companies bribe/lobby/make campaign contributions to whomever they need to (in the order of hundreds of millions) until they get their way.

     

    You aren't going to change anything. You don't have any insight or insider knowledge. You're talking out your butt.. and if anything does change (I'm sure one day it will) regardless of how much you will claim it was you, you would have had nothing to do with it.

     

    Marc,

     

    I thought you were a little smarter than that... I never said I had insider information, the writing is on the wall, you just gotta open your eyes after you pull your head out of the sand :)

     

    Hint: FRS Radios can now transmit on the Repeater Outputs!!! The FCC Folks know there are lots of Hams playing radio on GMRS, and trying to HOG spectrum.. GMRS is referred to as the "73 centimeter" ham band... NO One here is fooling anyone..

     

    73,

    Russ 

  9. Features for Midland Micro-Mobile Radios

    in Technical Discussion

    Posted

    Russell from Sacramento got upset that he can't rule the world, so he took his ball and went home.

     

    I dumped the original post because everyone here seemed to be committed to Part 90 equipment... So why have a thread that discusses Part 95E equipment??? Again, some of the same actors hijacked the thread and went on to promote the "Commercial" only mindset...

     

    So yep, I didn't just take my ball, I'll took the whole playground :)

  10. New 2022 GMRS/FRS Band Plan

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    That was painful. I saw his posts on QRZ... but I haven't seen this one.

     

    Not really... These forums provide some laughs from time to time, and it's always the same actors.. Some call me a troll because I float some different ideas about the RF Spectrum... And as soon as I float something all the Nay Sayers come out of the woodwork. It's the same BULLS**T Mindset that said Ham Radio would become CB because of the No-Code License. Of course, they were wrong, there was an influx of some really nice people, it was refreshing and a lot nicer to hear decent people using the Spectrum instead of bunch of old crabs... 

     

    As far as the GMRS crowd goes, there's changes coming like or not, you all dodged a regulatory bullet in 2017, but you're almost out of lives :)

  13. GMRS study guide

    in Guest Forum

    Posted

    Are you sure of that? FRS is certainly licensed by rule - you use a certified radio in an approved manner (by following the rules) and you are effectively licensed to use the service. But, I am pretty sure GMRS is explicitly licensed. You must apply, pay the fee, and be granted a license to use the service. You must then follow the rules or risk losing your license.

     

    Next time I'll keep quiet, and let you regulars answer all Q's...… Me not smart enough :)

  14. GMRS study guide

    in Guest Forum

    Posted

     I don't need to be encouraged to read part 95E because I've already read it.  I was just wondering if there was a summary somewhere because the CFR is not always straightforward.  I wanted to make sure that I didn't miss anything.  This is particularly important since the recent rule change has left an abundance of conflicting information all over the internet. 

     

    Chris 

    WRFS756

     

    I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you, please excuse me...….

  15. New 2022 GMRS/FRS Band Plan

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    And let's get rid of the ERP limits on GMRS.  I'm struggling now with building the best station that I can under the current restrictions.  As the rules are now, I have to have two base radios and two base antennas to build a high performance GMRS station that allows me to operate on all frequencies.  I need one radio, 1-10 watts with a unity gain antenna and feedline cut to a length to ensure proper attenuation to maintain legal ERP for channels 1-14.  I need another radio, 45w, with a high performance antenna to get the best performance on channels 15-22.

     

    By getting rid of the ERP limits, I could run one radio, 5-45w, and one gain antenna for everything.  

     

    Edit my former opinion above to say, I'm still very new to this whole GMRS thing and I can see now that the frequencies for channels 8-14 are so close to the repeater inputs that higher radiated power would likely cause trouble for repeaters.  Let's just eliminate those pesky channels completely.  

     

    I'll second that... I believe ERP limits won't be necessary if Narrow Band standards are adopted...

  19. GMRS study guide

    in Guest Forum

    Posted

    Are you sure of that? FRS is certainly licensed by rule - you use a certified radio in an approved manner (by following the rules) and you are effectively licensed to use the service. But, I am pretty sure GMRS is explicitly licensed. You must apply, pay the fee, and be granted a license to use the service. You must then follow the rules or risk losing your license.

     

    I was???????????

  21. ICOM Does make a GMRS Radio, well not exactly!

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    It is a specific-use-programmed, re-badged IC-F6021.

     

    The US version is Part 90 certified, but not 95.  Someone should contact Icom America, and ask them to apply for Part 95E certification for this rig, as it would pass with flying colors.

     

    FCC ID number is AFJ318001.

     

    Well, I did just that.. The response I got was, "Sorry, we don't have any GMRS products at this time, maybe in the future"...

     

    So more people will have to bug them about a GMRS product line...

  22. Could Be a GREAT GMRS Radio

    in Equipment Reviews

    Posted

    I think the only think keeping it from getting a part95E cert is the scrambler. Otherwise its no different than some of the other part 95 radios I have.

     

    It appears they ( ICOM ) use this model of radio for UHF CB down in Australia... It's the ICOM IC-410 PRO 80 channel UHF CB...

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