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#21 berkinet

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Posted 11 April 2018 - 03:53 PM

I'm just a bit surprised that I cannot get any response... ...Maybe I have the radio setup wrong, I don't think I do................... :-O

After transmitting, do you hear a short period of quiet carrier and then hear the carrier drop (i.e. a squelch tail) possibly ending in a beep tone? If not, you may have the wrong PL tone.

You might try using a second radio to listen to the output to see if you can hear yourself coming back through the repeater. Also, it may just be that the regular users keep to themselves. GMRS usage can be quite different from HAM or CB.

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 10:27 AM

I'm just a bit surprised that I cannot get any response. There is traffic here in CT on ch1,2,3,17,20. Maybe I have the radio setup wrong, I don't think I do................... :-O

 

While I'm not sure what ch 1, 2 and 3 are on the MXT400; I would assume 17 and 20 are GMRS channels. Ch 17 (462.600) is as JohnE posted, one repeater system. and Ch 20 (462.675) is another system. AFAIK - there are two big groups on LI with repeaters at very high elevations that you would hear from your location. The first one on Ch 17 (462.600) is very very likely https://www.mygmrs.c...ion=view&id=272. The other on Ch 20 (462.675) is probably https://www.mygmrs.com/networks?action=view&id=253.


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#23 PB92

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Posted 14 April 2018 - 03:47 PM

Yes berkinet, I do hear that. Midland manual says ch1: 462.562     ch2: 462.587    ch3: 462.612        Today on the way home on scanning, I heard "children" on ch1. I keyed and announced "WQYX865 listening".......did that a couple times then one of the children said "stop talking"...........soooo.....I think the radio is transmitting ok. Probably a couple kids playing on bubble packs.

 

There is a professional Communication/Radio shop here in Berlin, CT. They do PD, Fire, etc. I may stop there and ask for a tech to check it out. Dunno. I'm still learning the whole GMRS aspect, maybe I'm expecting it to be as busy as CB is.  



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Posted 14 April 2018 - 06:51 PM

Virtually everything you hear on the interstitials is blister-pack radios, and particularly with the younger users there's a (false) expectation of privacy. I mentioned it somewhere else in the forums, but most people (not just children) I've talked to on the interstitials didn't know other people could communicate with them. The kids often get spooked when they hear other people around, even if they're on channel 1 with no tone. I think they expect the range to be a few hundred feet, like the old 49 MHz radios, regardless of how many miles the box claims for range. It's just best to leave them be, unless they're interfering with you (or others), or are in distress.

 

FRS is definitely more active than CB, but the usage is mostly far different than CB. 462.5625 is the best place to look for any activity, but people are usually looking for someone else they know rather than open conversation. GMRS concentrates on repeaters and acts much like ham.



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Posted 15 April 2018 - 05:50 AM

I'm just a bit surprised that I cannot get any response. There is traffic here in CT on ch1,2,3,17,20. Maybe I have the radio setup wrong, I don't think I do................... :-O

As @WRAF213 noted, there is a significant difference in the way the various public radio services are used in practice. On CB people delight in talking with total strangers, particularly when traveling. Of course, there are also those who have regular conversations with other users, either locally, or at distances "when the skip is in." Ham users also tend to be gregarious, but not nearly as much as CBers and then generally when traveling or working the low bands. In my observation, GMRS seems more to attract small, closed groups. Often community or family centered. Conversations tend to be practical rather than general rag chews. 

 

Which is to say, you may not be getting an answer back because they simply did not hear you (radio config) or because they do not know you and aren't sure why you are calling.


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 02:18 PM

I agree, everything you said makes sense. Maybe in a way that's a good thing. I'll keep trying.



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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:10 AM

my repeater has been dead for about a year  just sitting there sucking electricity  thinking about shutting it down and just turn it on during hunting season  after all there are just 2 of us up here licenced



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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:31 AM

my repeater has been dead for about a year  just sitting there sucking electricity  thinking about shutting it down and just turn it on during hunting season  after all there are just 2 of us up here licenced

 

I once had the same thoughts on my own machine. After several years of occasional use i decided to list it as open and publish the access tones for the world to see. Over the last few years I have seen a steady increase of users, most recently after linking several other repeaters for wide area coverage. Somethings I have learned since I started hosting a repeater. 1. Longevity is the key, the longer you have it the more users it will gather. 2. Do not change your frequency or access tones, some people dont enjoy programing radios or may have to pay for programing. 3. Make friends with other like minded people to encourage use and spread the word about GMRS. 4. Use the repeater, traffic attracts users, the more people that hear you the better. 5. Promote the repeater and GMRS in your area, be it a website, message boards, clubs or friends the more people you can engage the better. Without a way for people to find you and a lack of users in your area nobody will ever know you have the machine if you dont tell them. I have learned you can't count on any one outlet to promote your machine and hobby.

 

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 02:17 PM

Well, so far from what I can tell I believe a few "locals" here in CT (I cannot verify that) seem to be some "bubble pack kids". Along with these two fellows on ch20 in Suffolk County NY, I hear also a couple on ch20 man and woman. The guy is testing his equipment with the woman. They were giving locations probably to figure distances, I think they may be in West Haven, CT. Next town south from New Haven.

 

I keyed a couple times on low power (3-4 watts) but didn't get a response. I originally setup the MXT400 in my Interceptor as an addition to my prep comms. But I started to get into GMRS and I really like it.  I'll keep going with it and see if I get anything.

 

Maybe after a while if folks keep hearing "WQYX865 listening" they will realize it's not just kids playing around. But I'm having fun with it either way.



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Posted 17 April 2018 - 03:12 PM

I'm not sure the full callsign, mainly because I listen to partial transmissions during commute times when my mobile is in scan mode, but ch 20 on LI is part of the Bridgecom group repeater system. IIRC the couple you keep hearing ID with a partial call of WRAT2xx.


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Posted 18 April 2018 - 02:01 PM

Yes, yes gatekeep, that's the call sign. I call them locals because of two things, one is the signal strength, and two I thought I heard a street name in West Haven, CT.  






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