alright.... i got the new antenna up and some lmr400 cable.... sounds so much better... in the areas that are "line of sight" it sounds much louder, the voice over the noise that is, and further with more nose than ever before. However, in those shadow areas, still very bad, so it just goes to reinforce how important line of sight really is. I only did a quick test around the neighborhood. I think this setup is overkill for the range, that is- i can't get further because I'm literally down inside a shadow area from everyone else, so unless i find a new home, its very limited in use. however, the goal of reaching my ex wife's house and the schools so the kids could talk to me is a success! (each about 1 mile from home but over the hill on the other side of my hill) ht outside in the street from her place sounds very clean, no noise. so from the 2nd floor the kids will have to trouble. (this is all on the HT) my location sucks. i will be talking with the neighbors who live at the top of the hill, maybe one of them will be interested in letting me set up there, i'm sure i can cover the entire town if i can just go a few blocks up the hill to the top. so my repeater is on the air using my motorola gr1225. next up: finish building the portable repeater with my twin TK880 and custom controller and Chinese duplexer, and solar panel w battery backup. i really have no use for this, i's just for fun at this point. using a mobile mag mount, i'll be able to take it in my car, and drive around and play with locations to see how well i can repeat from hill tops and the such. there are hills everywhere. If i park at the top of the hill, leave my car with a mobile antenna, i can test again from those spots and see if that improves the signal and if i can reach further than the 1 mile i am getting now.