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The debate over using PART 90 equipment for PART 95 use, I'll assume that debate will still be around long after I'm gone. My opinion on using Part 90 equipment shouldn't really matter if the equipment was manufacture prior to the January 2013 NARROW BANDING mandates, because those maybe be used on Amateur Radio Bands, but no real reason that they could be used for GMRS.

I sincerely apologize for drifting off topic in my original post. I wanted to say as far as ARES / RACES, for individuals who want to be useful during times of Emergencies or just working a normal PSEs. Indiviuals that aren' interested in Amateur Radio as a hobby. They could always obtain their GMRS license and get the necessary training for tasks not directly passing traffic, but a link in for other non HAM volunteers. If I have failed to be clear. Please Forgive Me!

I can't really say that I understand the FCC rules and regulations about GMRS whether to use or not use, because I have used and I modified radios not authorized for Part 95 use. Right now, I wished I had not made the modification on my YAESU FT-60R, but it's done. However, getting back to using used or new old stock part 90 radios for GMRS shouldn't be a big deal, for three reasons. One, the majarity of those radios pulled from service due to the narrow banding requirements, should be able to be recertified Part 95A / 95E for GMRS. Two, I know even used or new old stock unopened can be pricy, but there are some great deals, especially if you are able obtain the programming equipment. Three, the quality of ICOM KENWOOD MOTOROLA and VERTEX can't be found in other price friendly brand, except MIDLAND.

This individual has to be stupid, didn't he realize he may have put lives in jepardy. Now, I can't say that I haven't tread on to other bands that I have no business on, but I have never and will never mess around where I'm not authorized, Especially regards to Public Safety Systems.

I maybe rambling on and not staying on the Topic, but seems as a little simularity here. Connection VoiP on GMRS, sort a like back in the day, when CBers would add extra channels on their radios. Known as Free Banding, which remains illegal. Howerer, we're not talking about adding extra channels. What we're talking about using VoiP on FRS or GMRS, which was bond to happen at some point. I really don't see the harm with connecting FRS or GMRS to the internet via VoiP and extend coverage a little. Beside until GMRS regained it's popularity with recent Part 95 A & 95 E radios out there on the market, GMRS Iicensees were breaking rules & regulations anyway. Only there wasn't really a stink from the FCC, at least not from my prospective. I'm refering to the use of Part 90 radios rather than Part 95. Feel Free to shut me up and put me out of my misury, because it probably sounds as if I'm not too intelligant. I apologize & 73s

According to my knowlege traditionally ARES as well as RACES uses the Amateur Radio Service their primary group comms, but I assume GMRS could benefit in times of crisis. As far as the expense of HAM Radio as hobby, whelther it's Amateur Radio or GMRS equipment you will find isn't going to be much difference in expense. All the major manufactures, starting with Alinco, ICOM, Kenwood, Midland, Motorola and Vertex / Yaesu, prices will vary. Especially when you add in the cost of antenna coax and power supply. Some of these manufactures produce good quality radios, might not be FCC 95 Typed Accepted, but the new old stock or use UHF radios will do just as well the new.

I did forget to mention the organization that requesting radio operator volunteers. The organization is Multiple Sclerosis Society Delaware Valley Chapter is still in need of volunteers. It would also help if you had Amateur Radio License too.

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I know that there's NO such thing as a FREE LUNCH or RIDE, which I totally agree with. I also fully comprehend, that it requiers money to maintain a repeater or repeater systems. I just had the feelling when spoke with Ed aka 820 or 822, he seemed like an arrogant person. I will admit that I was out of line for ignoring for Ed's request for me to stay off the repeater. However, I wouldn't mind paying atlease $30.00 a month , because unlike bills that must be paid in or to live, something such as supporting the system's up keep , dues should be negotiable. I mean dues still need to paid, but keep it to minimum at $30.00 a month.

I sicerely appologize for classifying LEERN as an Organization. Maybe I did wasted everyone's time for what I have posted, when I really don't have any knowledge of LEERN. I do know that LEERN has some non Law Enforcement individuals who are members. That's the only thing that I'm sure of. Then again I maybe 100% wrong on rules and regulations. My first expierence using was back 1993, where the Town Watch that was a member of switch from CB to GMRS. Only two members held licenses and the membership Piggy Backed. Of course, I know now that's a technical violation, at lease in today's standards. But I do know that repeater that LEERN has should ID even if members are not required.

The frequency is (462.575 + 5MHZ ), but from what I understand about the FCC's grandfather rules,each employee is covered under the business license. Only the Business has to ID. However, LEERN is an Organization and not a Business, each member is require to identify themselves with their FCC assign Call Sign. I'm not fill a complaint, because it may or maynot be a violation which the FCC has more serious issues to tackle. Then again who really follows rules all the not just with Radio Communication, but in General ?

Unit 820 Name I won't say, but I wish I could have him hauled in impersonating a Law Enforcement Officer because he is very arrogant. I won't excuse myself for keying on that system not knowing that it a closed system,but at that I didn't know. Yes I have keyed it several time just to talk a friend who I thought that we were going his repeater. Unit 822 or 820 chewed me out over the phone and threaten me.

Nope They don't rebroadcast , that's clearly a violation under PART 95 and 97. The Members of that organization neglect follow protocal when it comes to ID ing with FCC call sign. I don't if they exempt for given their call-sign because of being active or retire law enforcement. Which from what I, there are no exemption for one. 73 WQAI363

The LEERN SYSTEM uses repeater set on (462.575) CH 16 with multiple repeater sites. Every time a LEERN MEMBER keys up, the only identification is, membership number/unit. That's not exactly going by FCC's R's&R's in Part 95 E. I don't I ever heard anyone give their FCC assing Call Sign. To answer your question, from I hear they don't use for any Law Enforce activity, just chit-chat as anyone would do. The one member 820,to me he comes accross as being arrogant. I really wonder if his Law Enforcement Career was a short one, because he sure thinks above everyone that isn't in Law Enforcement.

?I started monitor the LAW ENFORCEMENT EMERGENCY RADIO NETWORK on GMRS and I notice No one ever gives their proper FCC issued Call Sign. I know unit number or Tactical doesn't comply FCC rules. Are Public Safety Officials exempt from identifying their station? If not then I could, but I won't contact the FCC. One the FCC has more important issues to contend with. Two I also been known to bend or stretch the rules when it come two way radio. However I do my best to abide by the rules set fouth by the FCC.