I've noticed Pinal had changed their tones as well. So far the only repeater that we found to work well...flawlessly in our situation at Bartlett lake was CK575. I will need to try some of the others while at the lake and see if I can get a response from any others. I didn't realize there is a waiting list or line, heck I still don't even know how to get in line... either way the wait will be worth it if there's a chance for access again. Thx