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I agree with Box car , audio, put function, maybe even some can bus protocol or rs285. I am just learning about these different protocols. Tony

Is that for the Mic or the tethering cable?

Thanks for the reply, so it has been a learning lesson. We have the mountainous and valley topography. The whole approach is simplex within neighborhoods and neighborhood leaders having access to repeaters, while all will be listening for informational purposes. At the same time if an individual was isolated from other simplex users they could use the repeater near them(here is the barn burner, make it work with HT's). Moving forward. We have grouped communities and allocated frequency pairs to them. Some communities required multiple repeaters to provide coverage in their community because of terrain. So we mimicked calfires approach and have multiple repeaters on the same pair using different input ctcss. So for example we have 4 repeaters in our area , same frequency pair, same output crcss tone, different input ctcss tone. This allows users to use a HT and connect to the nearby repeater and the repeater pushes out there transmission at 40 watts. So whole community area can hear it . So long story short, we have anywhere from 1 repeater to 4 covering an area of 50-100 sq miles . We established a band plan for the county where no frequency pairs are recycled outside of each designated community. This is our attempt to minimize our foot print and our effect on adjacent counties. Also we have other people doing their own thing as well as businesses setting up Family Repeated systems. We are trying to make this work for all. So with a that said. I want to be able to simulcast across the communities that have multiple repeaters on the same frequency and link repeaters that are not( nets , emergencies). I would also like to pick and choose linking/simulcasting any number of repeaters for any givin incident. As for the network(IP) connection We will establish multiple backhauls at each site but the primary one will be our own using 5ghz ubiquitous radios . We will use cellular and internet gateways when ideal and free. Our routers can accommodate multiple WAN's. I am also hoping this will lead to less power output on the repeaters since similcast and links will mean one transmission will be heard across all or a selected few repeaters. The repeaters no longer eill have to "yell" to be heard. Another thing is providing network Access points at locations where neighborhood leaders can connect to from ICP's and possibly residenances . This will provide the most worthy version of communication. I have to run to work. Thanks for your input and i hope i explained myself well. Tony Goodwin CRO: Sonoma County Neighborhood Auxiliary Communication Service 707 494-7494

I wanted to note we use Chirp for all our kg-1000g's. They have support for the original and pro version. Tony

Ok copy that. I understand the 300 ft maximum on network cable. Also i used cat6. Your idea It is worth experimenting with. The head/display @60ft ccame on and was stuck on " reading......" so it had power. Thats what lead me to packet loss verses power. I can also presume power is low and maybe the head cant generate the power to receive or transmit packets. We have 100's of these radios out there. Tony Goodwin CRO:.Sonoma County Neighborhood Auxiliary Communication Service

It's a lie, looking at the connector with the locking tab away from you and the end facing up it is the two pins on the right 5 and 7. And you only do it on one end of your patch cable. I remember reading that manual paragraph over and over. I have physical knowledge of this and it works. Disregard the un grounded #2 pin. It works either way. If you use shielded cable then you should see #2 is grounded(at both ends) on your network cable tester. Tony

I really appreciate the advice and willingness to help from you folks. My vision for Sonoma County is to be an effective means for comms when all else has failed and be a good steward to my neighbors(frequency usage wise). You have givin me a lot of home work and I thank you. I will be in touch. I have included a couple of web links to our partners. Tony Goodwin CRO: Sonoma County Neighborhood Auxiliary Communication Service 707 494-7494 https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/07c0de00fd9f48c183f8cb273aad0706 https://www.wiconduit.org/radio

I think you understand what we are trying to do. It would be a link and simulcast combo. Receives sites for HT's, simulcast to conserve frequency use and linking for big events where we would want to tLk across multiple districts. Thanks for your reply Tony

Ok. This sounds like the commorodory I am talking about unfortunately our agencies all are send alone and keep everything close to the chest. One really doesn't want to help the other. This is the first time in a long time to see departments starting to talk and want a better system. It could happen and we are considering such a thing each step we take. We are not a selfish group. We want unity. We have to put egos aside. And achieve the awesomeness you folks have. I would like to hear me about your setup. Tony

Yes, you are in my head. We all now gmrs will probably end up in the trash heap because of all the repeaters and cross talk making it unusable. So solutions for when that happens it what LoRa and other avenues are for. Keeping an open mind on solution that can make this work. We are trying to create a redundant and super resilient system for community members to communicate with each other as well as create a direct line from agency support to the community. We all know people are busy and we have to minimize the impact this may have on their lives so we try to make it approachable. Gmrs is easy to license and allows the use of repeaters. Pretty cool . Of course we have blended amateur(ACS) ,ARES , smoke signals and everything else into the mix to accommodate each community and their way of wanting g to do things. We are here to try and minimize the gmrs jamb up or frequency overlap from other repeaters and users. So we have thought of securing a couple frequencies for this and some how making it license free or easy to get for the public. I will eventually sit down with the FCC and discuss. They have reached out and asked us for solutions to Tubbs, Maui etc. Tony

Actually we are trying to work with the them but they are stubborn. The whole reason we started NACS was to support the community that wasn't being supported by the Sheriff and other agencies. This movement is for the people. We will always be conscious of our choices and understand there may be consequences but we will not let tcomm get in our way. Tony

Oh and they recommended RTCM for our solution. Tony

Thanks, I did reach out to them. I was pretty disappointed in purchasing vendor when I found out we couldn't link our analog channels. The whole reason we went this route with Motorola was the ease of linking(if only GMRS was digital). Thanks for your feedback Tony

Yes, pin 2 is grounded in the short cable and I tried it with and without and it made no difference when you make your own cable. The only caveat is cable length. It starts to loose packets/communications when you go longer than the supplied extension cable. We had to learn this one the hard way. I reached out to B2WR and they said there is no solution. We are very bummed. Good luck Tony

Good day Fellow Enthusiasts, My name is Tony the Chief Radio officer for Sonoma County Neighborhood Auxillary Communication Service(non agency, volunteers). We have created a 20 plus repated system here using the Motorola SLR5700 series repeater. we have deployed 1000's of radios to neighborhoods and teach resilency and self preservation using GMRS/Amateur/Cup and string/smoke signals/bullhorns you name it we will try it, to communicate. I understand that we have very few GMRS frequenciesto use and we want to be good stewards to our neighboring counties. So i want to simulcast to minimize power output and fequency usage. We also plan to install backbone and redundancy using ubiquitous and LoRa radio. i am asking you good people for advice, reference material and/or experiences in how you have done this. Presently i am looking at using the RTCM thin client or a stand alone RPI. I know my way around a RPI enough to ge tmyself in trouble and would prefer a more plug n play approach. of course money is a big consideration since we are a volunteer group. i apprecaite you folks for doing what you do providing that redundancyfor your communities Tony Goodwin Chief Radio Officer: Sonoma County Neighborhood Auxillary Communication Service Sonoma County, CA.