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I don't know what radio you have, but I have the upper (50 watt) channels duplicated with CTCSS/DTCS tones for such a contingency. It's not perfect, because when the tone opens your squelch, you still may pick up the other traffic on the frequency. It also requires that your buddy program his radio the same way. Still, it mostly works because if you're traveling with someone in another vehicle, likely you're close enough that your signal will "beat" another signal originating further away.
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Ignore him. Anything you paid less than $1,000 for isn't a "real" radio to him. The rest of us actually live in the "real" world.
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Atlanta is a big enough place that I wouldn't be at all surprised if you were in range of two or more repeaters on the same frequency with different tones.
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I second this. I have the same antenna on a 36' mast for my repeater and I get 10-15 miles depending upon the direction. Terrain is less favorable to the northwest than in the other directions. When I'm recovered from my shoulder surgery, I'm going to put the antenna on a 50' mast. The greatest "bang for the buck" is almost always getting the antenna up higher.
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The tri-band Nagoya wouldn't get acceptable SWRs on one band (I forget which) no matter what I gave it for a ground plane, including in the middle of the roof of my car. The Nagoya HD-A (2m/70cm) didn't have an acceptable SWR on any band, despite being allegedly a no-ground-plane antenna. A couple of other Nagoyas did perfectly fine, including the UT-72. I've had (I think) 3 Trams and haven't had problems with any of them. With regard to how far they will tx/rx, I haven't noticed anything worth mentioning. However, in the area where I do most of my driving, the topography imposes a practical limit on any mobile antenna. Again, I'm not sure this means anything with regard to their ground plane units.
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I haven't used the ground plane kit from either, but I have used antennas from both. As a general rule, I was more pleased with the Trams than the Nagoyas. I have no idea whether that says anything at all about their ground plane kits.
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Yes, I know, but GMRS operates by somewhat different rules and serves a different purpose. I didn't see it mentioned anywhere, but I could have missed it. I'd be surprised if GMRS radios would even let you program it in, although ham radios on GMRS channels could probably do it.
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So, here's a silly question, just because this got me thinking... It's technically possible to transmit on one "primary" frequency and receive on another. For example, you transmit on 462.55000 and receive on 462.57500 while your friend's radio is setup the "reverse" way. Is there anything in the rules which prohibits it? If there is, I didn't see it. TBH, I can't think of a reason why I'd want to; it's just a thought exercise.
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I doubt you could do it with two off-the-shelf RT97Ls since they can only listen on one frequency at a time. If I understand the setup, each one has to monitor two frequencies simultaneously. It's a pretty cool setup, though.
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If the SWR is acceptable, it may work well enough for what you want. It won't be ideal, but hams use all kinds of weird crap for antennas and get a signal out. I saw a guy on YouTube use a bridge railing -- still on the bridge. If you put it on a 20' mast, you'd probably get 3 miles. It will never work as well as an antenna tuned for the GMRS band, but it may do what you want. "Good enough" is a valid concept.
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Really, the only thing you'd have to be careful about is that one of the HTs would have "reversed" offset and you'd have to have a "repeater A" set and a "repeater B" set. Depending upon your use case, it might not matter that "A" radios can't talk to other "A" radios and "B" radios can't talk to other "B" radios via the repeater.
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As it turns out, yes, there is a way to do this. Retevis has a solution. I'm truly surprised.
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You just got your GMRS license, now you want your own repeater?
WRTC928 replied to coryb27's topic in General Discussion
That is part of why I got into amateur radio, but not the only thing. I do enjoy having chats with people I know in my area. I also enjoy getting on local repeaters and chatting when I'm taking a trip. It's not the only thing I enjoy about it, but if some folks want to use it for only that, I don't mind. Occasionally, I get a bit bored listening to a couple of guys talk about their medical problems or sports, but I can always turn it off. -
What kind of connector does it have? The ad doesn't specify. From the picture, it looks like a BNC or SMA male. Edit: Never mind. I clicked on another tab and it says it's SMA female.
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It wasn't a tri-band. It was 2 meters/1.25 meters. I doubt a good tri-band could be made that short. Sometimes I'd like to be able to use 1.25 meters without that 18" antenna flopping around.
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That's my go-to for my tri-band radios. As far as I know, there's no tri-band antenna that isn't 15-18 inches long. I think it was on Amazon that I saw a tri-band radio that was sold with a 771-style antenna and a 2m/1.25m antenna that was about 8" long, but I haven't been able to find the antenna by itself. I'd like to have a couple of those on hand.
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True, but marine VHF is a bit of a niche application, and I doubt including it would make the radio sell better. Yep. I get that there has been some effort to make sure the various radios are only used by "authorized" people, but in this case, authorized users are literally everybody. That's certainly the libertarian approach, but I can't see it gaining any traction with any agency of any government anywhere.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't discern the logic.
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But now we're back to operating in violation of FCC regulations. You may as well buy a $15 UV-5r.
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FCC rules for FRS and MURS specify that a radio on either service can't be capable of transmitting on any other service. What's the reason for that? Does the logic make sense? I can get why they wouldn't (officially) allow FRS/MURS radios to transmit on amateur or business frequencies, but from a technical standpoint, obviously many radios can transmit on both services. It seems to me that by simply changing the wording of the regulation to say a radio certified for FRS or MURS can't transmit on any licensed frequency, they would open the door to a dual-band radio for the unlicensed services. Making the radio would be simple because both services are limited to 2 watts (0.5 on some FRS channels) and a little tweaking would put the frequencies into the current bubble-pack Walmart radios. Before you tell me that radio is called a UV-5r, I already know it will do it, but FRS radios are typically marketed to people who don't know squat about programming a radio. They want to just press the PTT and talk to their friends. It seems to me such a radio would sell well. I'm just curious about why the FCC won't allow it.
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Yeah, but patchouli masks the smell, right?
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I've been assured that 200 miles is easily achievable.
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You can get some pretty impressive distances if both radios are high enough. There's a GMRS repeater ~30 miles from me that I can reach with an HT, although my signal isn't the best. With the same radio and a Comet SBB7 antenna on a pizza pan about 10' off the ground, I can get through easily. With a base unit and antenna on a 34' mast, it's like being in the same room. The repeater is on a very high tower and my house is on an elevated terrain feature, so there's not much in between. Heck, I've even heard that 200 miles is easily achievable.
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It seems to have stopped, so I'll probably never know what it was. However, I did figure out that it sounded a lot like APRS signals, for whatever that's worth.
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Help me understand what this system does. How is this different from a regular radio and repeater, aside from being digital? What is the advantage of being digital? What capabilities does it add?