Thanks, it won't hurt to try, but I'll not get my hopes up. He is 4.8 k (crow flys) away with the water tower 2.8 k from me and 2.5 k from him. I sure would like to have space on that water tower for a repeater but it already looks crowded and I bet it is expensive. I have a friend that does microwave networking here, and I once installed a T1 for a TV station to run over their microwave running between Pensacola Fl and Ft Walton Beach FL, but that was as simple as plugging in a box on each end and they had deep pockets which I don't have. I may check with him to see if I can ride on one of his towers and set up a GMRS repeater. PS, just getting started with radio and was ready to test for ham, but no ham tests being given so I decided on GMRS in case the government (or China) turns off cell and internet which wouldn't be hard to do.