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I see that but do not agree, then in the same this is considered a network "(d) Digital data. GMRS hand-held portable units may transmit digital data containing location information, or requesting location information from one or more other GMRS or FRS units, or containing a brief text message to another specific GMRS or FRS unit" but is permissible? You are correct on the ham radio part, I was looking at it from a manufacturers point.

Agreed that's my point none of this is clear and the LTE is not connected or inter-connected to the repeater, there are no digital connections enabling communications, the Digital is converted to analog prior to transmit. I am almost 100% sure that the term "repeater Links" would nullify this ruling in a court of law under closer examination. Honestly one other point of examination would be the origination point of the transmitted signal into the repeater, would it be the initial digital data, or the point of conversion to analog FM?

LOLOL, iron Clad? Explain to me what the risk is? The repeater owner, me assumes the liability and it would be me not the users taken to court. The FCC sends out a notice to stop and I have an appeal, due process in which the ruling gets examined. The question is what happens when rulings aren't challenged? How many hams and GMRS users are using non type accepted radios?

Who knows I may be out in left field with this, but there are several points of this that need to be considered. As we all know wording in law is crucial, a ruling is an interpretation of the law and not the actual law or does it carry the same weight, there is the problem, and yes I have discussed this with friends that practice law, not communications law but they believe there is an argument to be made here. I think the first consideration is "Linking multiple repeaters (not doing that) to enable a repeater outside the communications range of the handheld or mobile device (Which is what exactly) to retransmit messages violates sections 95.1733(a)(8) and 95.1749 of the Commission’s rules, and potentially other rules in 47 C.F.R. " Repeaters may be connected to the telephone network or other networks only for purposes of remote control of a GMRS station, not for carrying communication signals." The repeater is not connected or inter-connected to a telephone system or connected to a voip system. The signal the repeater receives is analog FM,

LOLOLO, I responded to your chat, scam really that's what you come up with Meh, why are people sooo quick on the trigger to tear others down? There is an article on the website here is the link:https://cogentradios.com/blog-grid/ I guess your browser missed it.

Check out this video for more info, this is pretty cool.

Getting the repeater to work with the controller. Thanks to Will Nunley we will be working on getting the antenna in place soon. One thing I would like to do is have a repeater check in every Thursday evening at about 1900hrs once its in place. Let me know what you think.

The first task for any repeater setup is location, location, location. Due to the generous support of a local broadcaster a location has been determined. The location and elevation of the tower has been calculated to provide a 40 mile+ coverage area that is anticipated to cover from Hohenwald to Jackson Tennessee and south to the Alabama state line. There is still a lot of work to do, and if you want to assist financially that would be great but not necessary. This project may get completed much earlier than the anticipated 7 months and I am hoping to get the repeater on the air rather quickly. There is an annual invoice due for electricity and other incidentals to run this repeater at a commercial site. if you find this repeater useful even $5 a month would help offset this expense. Some of the features that will be available to users of the repeater are: Another avenue for emergency communication. Everyday communication use. Alert Notices. Weather and time announcements. (Pending) The benefits of having a GMRS repeater available to the community are immense and range from Emergencies to hunting and sporting applications. The use of a GMRS license is somewhat lose compared to other licenses and one license can be used for your family allowing your spouse to communicate without needing their own license. Follow us, join us and signup to participate in our CLAARC GMRS Club. Membership is free but is required for repeater use. For information regarding CLAARC GMRS please contact us at: CLAARC GMRS Info Thank you and have and awesome day! Frank Sellers N6AQ / WQWR627

Thank you, I have reached out. I have a server and trying to install Allstarlink, running into a bit of a headace with that.

Looking for some info myself. I have all the equip needed and getting the software lined out but having trouble figuring out where to get the node# from?

Ok, lots of progress and trouble shooting years later. So first repeater, vx7000 worked great with Commspec 408 20+miles in south Texas flat land on 50' tower. The same setup worked not nearly as well in Fredericksburg Va. Maybe 2.5 miles, turns out if antenna is in tree level forget it. While researching this I discovered a research project by a federal agency essentially stating that bio matter such as trees for 400 mhz and up are power sponges and pine trees are the worst. I built several other repeaters since then using various radios such as Vertex 2100/2200, TY9000 or the Retevis models with a Id o matic repeater controller by hamgadgets. With perfectly tuned antennas, jumpers and various name brand and Chinese type duplexers a noticeable desense issue existed in these systems making the systems virtually unuseable further than a mile out. Fast forward to today. I invested in a real repeater, a BCR 40u from Bridgecom systems with the same antenna and duplexer as the previous radio repeaters the BCR repeater now covers spotty up to 12 miles and no more desense, with the antenna still at tree level. So now its just a matter of getting the antenna as high as possible. With the dual radio repeater setup everything was tried to fix the desense issue with no luck, as a last resort I thought about calling in a shaman. Once again while trying to fix the desense issue I found several articles relating to the sensitivity and selectivity of a repeater, these are NOT the same thing. Radios like the Vertex 2100/2200 have adjustments that can mitigate some of this but the Chinese radios do not and just dont have the selectivity to eliminate desense like an actual real repeater. Its been a long road, but now I can expertly tune duplexers and starting to grow hair back I pulled out during this process. I hope this helps someone and thank you to everyone that chimed in and tried to help. Coming soon, a node to link my repeater and I look forward to hopefully talking to some of you. 73 Frank

Hi is there a place on myGMRS to sell equipment and such?

Thanks for the insight, I am making up a new hardline and will check it on the analyzer.

I cut the jumpers to tune, I heard anything over 30' does not matter, the hardline is 51'.

Hahahaha, a bit scratchy. I ordered a comet replacement with an N connector until I can get a boom truck and make arrangements to get the db408 in place, another week and we will see.

Yes everything has been tested and the antenna like I mentioned is a great dummy load. Everything is working the way it should. I think I was just surprised at how bad this antenna actually is. Like I mentioned previously I don't remember experiencing an antenna ever performing with all the correct numbers this poorly, except maybe a Firestick LOLOL. The Tram 1450 claims 5db gain and I am just wondering compared to what, a rock, I think an HT antenna would work better? LOLOL. Not sure if the beamwidth of the antenna works better at lower elevations but will let a friend try it out at his home once I get the replacement in. Either way thats what I get for not going commercial to start with. Thanks again for the responses and input. Frank

Ok here is a followup, I have a 150 watt cellwave dup in the 7000. I have an identical setup going to a friend with the same results. So I am confident at this point it is the antenna. The Tram 1450 is obviously an awesome dummyload. Thanks for the suggestions and insight, in 30 years I have never had an antenna perform this poorly. I have a db408 on the way and excited to see the difference.

Completed the 50' Rhon45 tower install yesterday, mounted a tram 1450 uhf antenna on the top and fed it with 1/2" EDC4-50 hardline. I used a Comet mkII caa analyzer at the end going into the vxr7000 and it shows 49 ohm and 1.1 swr output is 50watts. So everything seems near perfect, I am on a high point but I can only get into the repeater from about 1/4 mile away. The only thing I think can be an issue is the Tram 1450 antenna, it is just a wonderful dummyload. I ordered a DB408-b and a 22' chrome molly mast as a replacement. I was hoping to get at least 2 miles out of this current system. Anyone have any suggestions?