I appreciate all the input here on this subject ... my main concern was if stacked or the side by side version was better? one would assume that the side by side may be more efficient of a radiating pattern but i do not know... I had considered many options and I have and are using a Fiberglass antenna at one location it is by far not crap... but I know it is not optimal but was what was in budget 1 year ago.. now that I have help and others wanting to help and contribute I want to move forward to something better.... with a total of 5 repeaters I own all TKR-851's I want to try and fill the gap around NE Iowa and NW Illinois... As for the duplexers the other gentleman pointed me to on Ebay... I sent a message but they are listed at 3Mhz split and while it is a savings will they be as good as TXRX? waiting on his reply if he can tune them and maybe discount if I purchase 5 then it is an option.