WRVD377

I was told the building permit is for the structure project as it applies to the fees related to the cost of the project, the paperwork that must be submitted. Then it gets sent to zoning to comply to the cities Tower codes. (Meaning how they wish to apply the code to this project) if it is approved or objections to whatever will be told to you. So here they have excessively vague rules except on the commercial side. Yet the last email then said the HAM side must comply to the same sections in the commercial side even though it clearly states (except that section does not apply to "armature (HAM)" specifically called out. For me that is too much of a circle in the codes. I finally asked a Concrete general contractor if he could do the concrete work, paperwork, permit, replies from the city and at what cost to deal with the cities circle of rules.

Thank you for the confirmation. Does that have to do with the cut out in the HAM side that contains this (47 CFR 97.15(b)) that I could not find in GMRS?

Anyone had a city tell them to install a 30' or 40' tower requires commercial tower zoning for GMRS, but if you have a HAM License it has other rules?

Icom IC-2730A- I know is not compliant for gmrs and requires a modification for it to work. Not sure how many people will be willing to answer that question publicly. However it you break the rules this is likely a good option. I prefer non Midland products due to being able to have 2 - 4 preprogramed repeaters or simplex stations all at the same time so I can reply to many without changing channels to hear one at a time. The above is 2. Btech has some that are 4. So it is worth looking at others if you do like me. Likely I can't answer antenna questions, as I am just now looking at multiband antennas. But I know one of mine will work the HAM side and GMRS, as well as part of the 150 range. Royce

GMRS- Yes it can be possible. Line of sight, repeater antenna as high as possible even that tiny repeater we have got 8 miles in bad locations. If you are truely flat no buildings or hills in the way it is possible for HT 5W to get to it, but where I live it is not good past 2.25 miles. The key is antenna height, for everyone. Last I checked $35. Also find the highest DB gain antenna for that tiny repeater and the highest location possible, with the shortest LMR-400 cable run you can. Do not attempt to tie a radio to the repeater, get an HT for you to talk to it. A mobile for a vehicle. May not have hit all your points. Royce

Hello Zeph, Do you have a call sigh from FCC? if no, start with that. Thank you, WRVD377

Hello Nice you could join, sorry I am not in that area so I am not much help on that front.

How does that help this person's issue? What do you need?

Well they never said how they would do it in the email. I wonder if it is this. Retevis AR30 Full Duplex Repeater FARM TRACTOR BUNDLE | retevis.com

That certainly sounds strange. Not that I would know how in this case, a privacy tone is a problem with alternator noise, but the only thing I did not see you write is if you tried to shift the tone from one end of the settings to the other. To see if any of them work. I don't know how the noise could strip out or alter the tone but not affect anything else. However, this forum has some people that have been around a lot of stuff and one of them may have heard such a thing.

Can you find a mount point on the camper topper near the cab to use they nmo antenna if that is a truck bed camper unit, where you mount the nmo antenna to this Nagoya GPK-01 NMO Ground Plane Mount Kit – myGMRS.com when parked or driving with the camper in the bed and use the cable that came with the mobile unit? You would say mount it to the side of the popup with enough space so the popup works, but the cable is still long enough to pass back in the truck. Just one thought. Ill add my second thought, what if your truck mobile had the above setup, but you were looking for more distance when parked. Can the mobile move to the camper, add a hitch mount for a retractable pole 25', LMR 400, and a typical ground plane antenna. Using Velcro to hold cable. all removable for travel and the above usable while travelling with camper. then if camper is not in the truck, use standard nmo antenna and cable.

Find Repeaters - myGMRS.com Filter by state. Or GMRS Nets - myGMRS.com But I am pretty sure you need to be a member to request access.

Might I suggest watching some of NotaRubicon Productions - YouTube reviews. It is how I started after my first two items purchased (would not have had I watched his first), and learned there are better options out there. In my mind it is a good beginner, simple review with commentary you may or may not like. But good general knowledge to base your dollars spent. Watch for devices that allow you to talk on more than one channel on the same device. Example: 1 ptt on simplex, 1 ptt on repeater channel no flip flopping around if you don't travel far, just push the other button. Everyone will have a favorite, and many of them are good.

Done.

Sshannon, Thanks, I have seen those videos "VNA", good ones to watch. I will go look at the gmrs ones to see if I can follow any of them to a solution for me for the Vertex repeater node building.

Thanks. Sounds like a "normal" issue for all cables then.

Thank you. A friendly ham pointed out an issue. At the time I looked for that issue I found a cable site that confirmed it. What was said was that the outer aluminum shield if it gets wet tends to cause an issue with the copper main line due to the different metals. Which I know from other industries, AL on steel is an issue also. I am not saying I completely believe them over anyone else only asking if anyone "really!" has seen it. But I thank you for your reply. Royce

I read all the current posts in a search for the above title. 1.) Does anyone know where and what to buy to link this repeater to mygrms as a node? 2.) Has anyone used a less expensive VNA to retune a notch duplexer in the gmrs range? 3.) Has anyone seen the reasons not to use LMR400 outside and if yes what is the alternative? Thank you for any help, Royce

The "reasonable to assume" question was at hand. No mention of a local repeater height. Thus, my answer and condition. The link explains some of those variables. And obviously the extreme exceptions are always out there but are they "reasonable" for an unspecified height, or cabling, or antenna, cable loss, on and on. So for those with expensive systems, is that "reasonable" the way it was asked? I think not. Many have answered in alot of detail, but if you read how it was asked with no repeater altitude who will say yes 10 miles is fine on open flat land no buildings or trees (Oh wait that was not specified either). Put an 80' tree line, 10' - 30' infront of any of it. Is it still reasonable? Oh wait put some 5 story buildings right in front of the handheld, is that reasonable? At what power and altitude. Point being most of you pointed out the variables, exceptions are just that. Ideal perfect designs that most people cannot put in themselves Due to the real costs. Take my results what does that cost for a reasonable expectation everywhere in the US, then take all the other costs. I'll bet the examples of 10 miles or more are exceptions compared to most places in the US. For $800 can you get over 10 miles without knowing repeater height, obstructions, and all the other parts. My most recent test was at 25W Motorola GR1225, still not over 2.25 miles. So I leave it at what is "reasonable" at an unspecified repeater height and all real living obstacles that may not have been stated. Answer: The MFGs handhelds documented answer. Crap. Unless there is absolutely no obstructions of any kind.

Try this site: Radio Line of Sight Calculator for use on VHF/UHF Ham Bands (hamuniverse.com) This gives you some examples. It is all the details that matter. One of my Handhelds is 5W with a better antenna and it still only got 2.25 miles- So I will jump off the cliff and say it is not reasonable to expect 10 miles from 5W handhelds, maybe on 5 miles. But not for me as I showed above. Again all the details matter as to an answer of which most of us could never give a yes or no answer.