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14 minutes ago, WRUE951 said:

2 dud's.  I bought one and won one..   It's really not a bad radio in Analog and DMR.. .  I'm gonna figure out whats gong on with the encryption, something buggy there and probley doesn't like the highest level where i have it set..    

I suspect that the error detection on the highest level of encryption is what’s causing the problem. It might be so sensitive to errors (understandably) that at any greater distance the error rate prevents the data from getting through. 

Posted
47 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:

I suspect that the error detection on the highest level of encryption is what’s causing the problem. It might be so sensitive to errors (understandably) that at any greater distance the error rate prevents the data from getting through. 

i think you are right..  Couldn't play tonight, my friend with the other radio got drug out to dinner  by wify..   🤣... will try tommorow..  I just found out the one i bought (from RadioDitty) came with a European Charger...  Been charging it on my labtop cord and had to dig into the factory unit tonight.    One more surprise  🤣

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Just a note on DMR encryption. This thread on another forum might be of interest.

https://forums.radioreference.com/threads/official-standards-documents-for-dmr-encryption.399358/

I think the only encryption that fairly interoperable between manufacturers is ARC4 (RC4) 40 bit. Some DMR radios don’t offer AES or DES levels.

I do have a few Motorola XPR650’s with RC4,

https://forums.mygmrs.com/gallery/image/261-motorola-xpr6550jpeg/?context=new

and I have it added to my Kenwood NX-1300’s.

https://forums.mygmrs.com/gallery/image/290-nx-1300duk5/?context=new

They go by different names but are the same thing.

Motorola calls theirs "Enhanced Privacy" and Kenwood calls it " Enhanced Encryption" or "RC4".

I believe Hytera radios use it as well. 

https://www.hytera.us/resources/what-is-two-way-radio-encryption/

Then the Anytone D878UV's have RC4, AES and their own spin that only works with their radios.

D878Encryption.jpg.6ad151d232a46274f584f9d53736802e.jpg

 

This is an interesting topic and could use it's own thread.

Posted
On 8/1/2025 at 2:47 AM, WRXB215 said:

I hate it when you have to order the cable separate. 😆

It's not the cables so much as the different chargers for my various Part 90 Icom LMR h-t's

I have to admit, I was lucky when I purchased my 1st Alinco Part 90 h-t years ago [DJ-MD40], it was on sale, & included the cable

On 8/1/2025 at 8:17 AM, WRYS709 said:

A shame that a radio as complicated as DMR does not come with its programming cable included. 

I don't use DMR, but I'm glad that my Alinco DJ-MD5 uses a standard micro-USB cable

I don't remember if one was included or not

Posted
18 hours ago, SteveShannon said:

I suspect that the error detection on the highest level of encryption is what’s causing the problem. It might be so sensitive to errors (understandably) that at any greater distance the error rate prevents the data from getting through. 

Your theory is probably correct.  AES128 is a little better, ARCA better than both but not holding a candle to the Hytera AES256  .  DMR and analog with this radio is very good.  I'm not complaing, the DMR32 is still a decent radio and their encryption works, just not to par with higher end radios.   

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