Kids interfere w/PS radio NJ

[Captain056]

 Gentlemen,       

 

                           The radios in question are Chinese import radios that are “unlocked” to extend through the entire band.

 

          The system in question is: WQQK520, which is licensed to Chaveirim Volunteer Services, Inc., on 461/466.9875 MHz.

 

                   461.9875 IS NOT a pubic safety frequency under the current rules and is afforded no protection in any such manner that a public safety licensee would be. Additionally, it is licensed for an incredibly high effective radiated power from a 160 ft. water tank. The system is licensed for analog FM, wide and narrow NXDN, and DMR (the combination of NXDN and DMR in the same radio or repeater is currently impossible).

 

                 Chaveirim (translated meaning “hello friends”) is a 501©(3) formed within the Hasidic community in Lakewood. As such, they are not eligible for a 90.20 frequency, but are appropriately licensed for a 90.35 frequency.

 

There are two issues subsets of problems here:

1) Children don’t get these things on their own. The radios in question are programmed on frequency, have the appropriate input offset, and the appropriate squelch code. This seems more like parents involved or maybe formerly involved in Chaveirim left the radios around or gave them to their children when they were no longer needed. I highly doubt that children (I’m thinking pre-teens) have the faculties to program and configure this particular frequency/access combination into anything without parental involvement.

2) One must understand how frequency coordinators work. For 90.20 services, frequency coordinators SHOULD make their applicants define an area of operation. Sometimes the area of operation is unrealistic, like a one square mile town that is asking for a 25 mile radius to operate within, or for countywide coverage. Other times, the “AOP” is accurate for regular operations. The frequency coordinator attempts to find the frequency or frequencies where the system may operate with the least intrusion to other on or adjacent to them. In NJ, that’s usually impossible and “the best of the worst” is provided. In business, there is no such protection. Frequencies are assigned on the basis of mobile loading. So, it is possible to have six repeaters in very close proximity to each other and the FCC expects “shared use” of the resources (and has a requirement in the Rules about mandatory monitoring prior to transmission). In real life, 461.9875 MHz gets zero protection, so, had the children not been playing on the radios, it would be entirely possible that Giuseppi the Plumber, Town Florist, King Wok Delivery, and all kinds of other commercial operators would license up on the same frequency in the same area. Chaveirim would then be required to share the channel (but NOT the repeater, unless they leased facilities).

 

There does not appear to be incursion on to any Lakewood municipal or Ocean County services.

 

 

Paul

[PastorGary]

Paul - Thanks for the feedback and info. I'm sure that it will be added to the overall scenario by members here for a better understanding of the situation.

 

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[ULTRA2]

Well we actually can't blame the radio company but to those who have surplus gears they want to get rid off and they use the flea market to do it. The sad part is that they do not explain the proper use of the radio and thats where the problens lie.

(JUST NOTICED THIS IS A 5YRS OLD THREAD BUT JUST WANT TO PUT MY TWO CENTS IN)

Alberto

WRCC719

[PastorGary]

Alberto - You should have 'put your 5 cents in' - then we could give you 'three cents back' in change...

 

Thanks for contributing feedback and opinions in the forum. Nice to have you with us...

[ULTRA2]

Thanks Pastor Gary try to help out as much as I can on here