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#1 WQVA296

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 07:26 PM

Hello all,

 

Twenty-something new father and a newly licensed GMRS user here in eastern Mass. I'm in the process now of selling off some unused radio and other various electronic equipment to fund a repeater setup. I've been monitoring the repeater channels... there isn't much repeater use in my area and I've only heard a couple of other users that appear to be using simplex only. I've used CB for many years growing up and I'm an avid scannerist and commercial radio user for my two public safety jobs. Just looking to learn as much as I possibly can about repeaters, radio etiquette and pretty much just the lay of the land before I expand my radio usage to amateur... hoping to take my tech in the spring.

 

That's pretty much it. Feel free to say hello, especially if you're local to me.

 

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 12:22 AM

Congratulations on being a new father! That is quite the experience. I have a teenage daughter and is also an experience :-)

I started in GMRS about a year ago and shortly thereafter got my technician license.

Curious as to why you want to put up a GMRS repeater? I had thought of that also, but ultimately never have. Talk with family, friends (licensed), neighborhood or just plain old geekiness. I thought of doing it for family and geekiness myself! remember talking to someone that I had started noticing cool areas where one could mount an antenna for wide coverage.

If you want, email me at my ham call sign @gmail.com for some additional information.
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Posted 13 December 2014 - 05:49 AM

Greg,

Welcome to the site.I hope you enjoy the site and feel free to ask any question you may have.We have several on this site that have the knowledge and experience in communications and radio backgrounds...William



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Posted 13 December 2014 - 06:26 AM

Greg and Jeff - Welcome to MyGMRS Forums.  We always enjoy new members who participate in our discussions. Our general members have years of experience in communications and if you need info, this is the place on the Internet to be.

 

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 09:58 AM

I'm pretty much in the same boat as far as age and family situations go (except my daughter is due in February). 

 

I started off as a ham…then got into GMRS (I probably use GMRS more than I do anything else FM). Repeaters are fairly simple. Receiver, transmitter, controller (optional depending on setup), cables to interconnect everything, a duplexer and antenna (or two antennas to remove the duplexer from the equation). 

 

A lot of people here tend to start out with mobile based repeaters. A couple of UHF surplus radios and some stuff to interconnect them. If you have some extra UHF commercial gear, you may want to consider keeping those at first.



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Posted 14 January 2015 - 10:05 AM

     Uniden, many of us here have lots of experience with radios. Pastor can answer anything. I am also a ham so get your license there also. Lots of opportunities.

 

Jerry


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Posted 27 January 2015 - 12:25 AM

...I started off as a ham…then got into GMRS (I probably use GMRS more than I do anything else FM). Repeaters are fairly simple. Receiver, transmitter, controller (optional depending on setup), cables to interconnect everything, a duplexer and antenna (or two antennas to remove the duplexer from the equation)....

 

i haven't done much with my repeater in a while, money is a litlte tight now and i still need a duplexer and controler.   you gave me an idea, that maybe i can build this without the controler and just use the two tied together as a range extender.  you say depending on set up, but from what i understand, a GMRS repeater has to ID?   I hear people now talking on GMRS without any ID, but its clear its a repeater with a roger beep and tail, once they stop talking, the signal does dead, for days at a time.   i have all 8 ch scanning 24/7 while i'm at home, and sometimes i use a voice recorder at night to see who's on... not much, but then out of the blue, some guys testing out a repeater, i can hear prefectly well.    there is only 1 GMRS repeater in town that Id's every hour or so, except at night, i found the owner and got permission, which is great, but i still want to build my own for short range with my kids.  (the one in town will cover too much area for what i need)


Sussex County, New Jersey.

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#8 PastorGary

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Posted 27 January 2015 - 06:58 AM

Steve - a GMRS repeater does not have to send out a Morse ID for the owner's license - it is the requirement that everyone USING a repeater, ID properly as set forth in Section 47CFR95.119 of the Rules. [ Subpart (e) as an example ]



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Posted 28 January 2015 - 01:03 AM

Steve - a GMRS repeater does not have to send out a Morse ID for the owner's license - it is the requirement that everyone USING a repeater, ID properly as set forth in Section 47CFR95.119 of the Rules. [ Subpart (e) as an example ]

If transmissions aren't being properly IDed, then the repeater needs an IDer. So if everyone properly ID's, then one is not required. Which is what makes GMRS repeaters so much easier (and cheaper) to build.

 

The only real reason I'd put an IDer on a GMRS repeater, is for a private repeater used by those covered under a single license. I'm actually working on a repeater for my family and one for my friend's (who happens to have a family run farm). Those will have IDer's on them.


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Posted 31 January 2015 - 02:04 PM

     Our Black Swamp Radio Society repeater id's once every hour and again every 15 mins while it is in use. That reminds us to id in the proper amount of time. The morse id only says "time to id." LOL It is so busy that it ids all the time. We have well over 30 licenses on it and most of us are hams too. We all get along and have a good time.

 

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 10:24 PM

zap, are you saying that if the repeater does the ID then the callers dont have to?  I can just talk to someone in my family, using the same ID, and just let the repeater do the ID?  More specifically, does that mean that I dont have to force the kids to ID every 15 minutes, i can just say it once or maybe not at all if the repeater does the IDing?


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Sussex County, New Jersey.

I'm building a home DIY repeater system w Kenwood TK-880 & Elektra 2000

Comet CA-712EFC  + (Ed Fong PVC Jpole)

Baofeng UV-5R, 888S

Motorola GR1225 Repeater - EX600XLS


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 12:49 PM

Correct. That's also why I don't advise having an ider on an open repeater unless it's triggered by signaling. One could argue the license iding is directly responsible for any misuse.




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Posted 10 February 2015 - 11:55 PM

... One could argue the license iding is directly responsible for any misuse....

 

that's exactly what I was thinking.


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I'm building a home DIY repeater system w Kenwood TK-880 & Elektra 2000

Comet CA-712EFC  + (Ed Fong PVC Jpole)

Baofeng UV-5R, 888S

Motorola GR1225 Repeater - EX600XLS


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 03:15 PM

Ok, I'm also a Noob. I have a pair of Uniden radios. I live in Suffolk county in New York. What channel would I use if I need help for any reason ? I will be doing some Kayaking this summer and want to bring the radios for fun and in case of emergency. Any help with this is appreciated.

#15 PastorGary

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 07:09 AM

Please review answers in your other thread start.






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