Vertex 7000 help!

[WRYG716]

Vertex 7000 programmed with brand new duplexer from buy2wayradios.com when I key up my hand held nothing happens on the repeater. Tried a few different radios. Yes the tones are correct checked them a few times. Anybody have experience with these repeaters? 

[Radioguy7268]

What frequencies are the portables programmed to?

Even if the tones are incorrect, a transmission on the repeater's receive frequency should show as an active 'RX' light on the repeater when keying the portable. If you're not even getting that, then something is drastically wrong. 

The VXR7000 is fairly straight forward, and I'll assume the repeater (and duplexer) were tuned to the frequencies you specified at time of sale.  Do you have the ability to pull a codeplug for the repeater?

[WRYG716]

Yes the duplexer was tuned and the frequencies  are correct put the frequencies in backward on the repeater and regular on the hand held. No i don’t have a way to pull a code plug. I even tried putting in a simplex channel and got nothing. The mic won’t key it up. Used another handheld in simplex to talk to the 7000 and got nothing there also. 

[Radioguy7268]

What is the EXACT frequency for the repeater's receive?

[WRYG716]

467.6750 receive 

[Radioguy7268]

I would be asking the seller for some help. It sure sounds as though the repeater has not been programmed to your frequencies. If you key up on a base mic attached to the repeater, you should definitely hear it on a nearby portable set to CSQ (Carrier squelch) - even if the antenna/duplexer is totally wrong. Even if PL tones are incorrect, you should still be seeing carrier activity on the LED's.

Pulling a codeplug is probably the easiest way to figure out what's going on, and less trouble than boxing it up & shipping it back & forth. Ask the seller for assistance.

[WRYG716]

I can run the programming software and see the frequencies that are programmed in. Rx 467.6750

Tx 462.6750

127.3 tone 

on handheld of course I have those flipped 

 

[WRYG716]

How do you pull a code plug? 

[Radioguy7268]

If you have the programming software & can read the repeater, then you have pulled the codeplug already.

If the information programmed into the repeater is what you requested at purchase - and your portables are programmed in the reverse (Portable transmits on 467.675 & receives on 462.675 with a matching tone of 127.3)  then the programming would appear to be correct.  Double check frequencies in the portable.  I will assume that your two portables will communicate with each other on a common simplex channel (ie: 462.675 for both transmit & receive).

If that's all true, then I'll say it once more - call the seller & see what they advise.

[WRYG716]

I contacted the seller and they said to try to find a base file for the repeater upload it save it then renter my frequencies then write to radio. Not sure where to find that lol 

[MarkInTampa]

2 hours ago, WRYG716 said:

I contacted the seller and they said to try to find a base file for the repeater upload it save it then renter my frequencies then write to radio. Not sure where to find that lol 

I sent you a copy of a VXR-7000 config file I did to your email. Let me know if it didn't go through. Make sure you save a copy of the original config file on your computer just in case.

 

[WRYG716]

Got it! Thanks I’ll try to reprogram repeater tonight 

[WRYG716]

9 hours ago, MarkInTampa said:

I sent you a copy of a VXR-7000 config file I did to your email. Let me know if it didn't go through. Make sure you save a copy of the original config file on your computer just in case.

 

Tried with your software repeater still isn’t keying up at all. Any ideas? 

[WRYG716]

Could it possibly be bad coax jumpers to my duplexer? 

[MarkInTampa]

42 minutes ago, WRYG716 said:

Tried with your software repeater still isn’t keying up at all. Any ideas? 

 

Remove the duplexer, connect the antenna (or dummy load if you have one, you don't want to transmit without a antenna or dummy load or you can damage the transmitter) to the TX antenna jack on the repeater and try keying it with a HT with no antenna on the RX antenna jack within a few feet of the repeater. If it works, you have a problem with the duplexer or its connected backwards. If it still doesn't get RX, I'd think something is wrong with the repeater or your configuration.

[WRYG716]

My busy light is staying on. The squelch is turned all the way up. Is that normal? 
if I turn the repeater off and back on it goes away. 

[WRYG716]

Only thing I changed on the software was my input and output on number 1. Double checked handheld to make sure it was programmed right and tried a few different radios nothing seems to be getting in 

[WRYG716]

Ok so I did that test got nothing to repeater but it did key up another handheld for about .5 secs long enough to let me know it hit it. 

[MarkInTampa]

11 minutes ago, WRYG716 said:

My busy light is staying on. The squelch is turned all the way up. Is that normal? 

I don't think it's normal, but don't know for sure. I got my VXR-7000 really cheap ($100), set it up without a duplexer and tested it with a antenna on the output and no antenna on the input, it worked fine and I donated it to a local group that could use it.

[WRYG716]

1 minute ago, MarkInTampa said:

I don't think it's normal, but don't know for sure. I got my VXR-7000 really cheap ($100), set it up without a duplexer and tested it with a antenna on the output and no antenna on the input, it worked fine and I donated it to a local group that could use it.

Crap ok. The guy I bought this from said it came from a working site and it was tested before sent to me. I’m not sure what is wrong with it. Not really any place to take it around me to have it looked at. 

[Radioguy7268]

According to that picture - your repeater is set to 467.675 Receive - but with a tone of 77.0 Hz.  I believe you said your portable had a tone of 127.3 ?? The repeater needs to have the same PL tones as the portables.

Your transmit appears to be set to CSQ (no tone at all) with a frequency of 462.675.  If the portable radio you are using is set up with a PL on the receive, you would not hear the repeater. (You should still see a 'busy' LED when the carrier comes up on channel).

It appears your frequencies are correct - but you need to match your tones on your portables and your repeater.  If you can key the repeater with a local mic plugged in - the repeater will just be transmitting on the base of 462.675

 

[WRYG716]

I changed it when I used his file. Left everything the same but the frequencies. I of course changed the pl in the handheld to match 

[WRYG716]

When I try to key up in base it just beeps at me. If I key up in repeat the tx light comes on? 
this is with the hand mic 

[Radioguy7268]

The transmit light should come on. That's normal operation for a repeater that's being keyed with a hand mic.  If you have a receiver (portable) listening on the 462.675 - then put it in Monitor (disable the PL tone).  If your repeater is transmitting on that frequency, you will hear it.  Even if the repeater has a bad amplifier, or the duplexer is totally hooked up wrong, you'll still hear the output if you're in the same room with a portable listening on 462.675

If you can't get that - then you are NOT transmitting on 462.675. 

There's a limit to the amount of help you're going to get online.  At some point, you need to be able to troubleshoot step by step & figure out what you have, and what you don't have. Throwing darts at a virtual dartboard for tech help is not the answer.

[WRYG716]

6 minutes ago, Radioguy7268 said:

The transmit light should come on. That's normal operation for a repeater that's being keyed with a hand mic.  If you have a receiver (portable) listening on the 462.675 - then put it in Monitor (disable the PL tone).  If your repeater is transmitting on that frequency, you will hear it.  Even if the repeater has a bad amplifier, or the duplexer is totally hooked up wrong, you'll still hear the output if you're in the same room with a portable listening on 462.675

If you can't get that - then you are NOT transmitting on 462.675. 

There's a limit to the amount of help you're going to get online.  At some point, you need to be able to troubleshoot step by step & figure out what you have, and what you don't have. Throwing darts at a virtual dartboard for tech help is not the answer.

What I’m trying to say is when I put it in base and key the mic it just beeps. No light. When in repeat mode it keys up but no receive on handheld or base station. Shouldn't it key up on base?