Question about fleet talk or nets

[priller]

Morning all, can I get a sanity check on local freqs/tones/repeaters/nets?

https://www.radioreference.com/db/browse/ctid/1946/ham

Using this as reference point, for the GMRS freq at bottom of page.  That's not a repeater right?  That's just a freq+tone to use?

Same question for the Amateur bands listed in that link?

I need a GMRS Elmer to help me figure this all out haha.

Have a good day folks.

[SteveShannon]

7 minutes ago, priller said:

Morning all, can I get a sanity check on local freqs/tones/repeaters/nets?

https://www.radioreference.com/db/browse/ctid/1946/ham

Using this as reference point, for the GMRS freq at bottom of page.  That's not a repeater right?  That's just a freq+tone to use?

Same question for the Amateur bands listed in that link?

I need a GMRS Elmer to help me figure this all out haha.

Have a good day folks.

Are you asking about that Charlotte 575?
Yes, that’s a repeater.  See how it has a frequency of 462.575 MHz.  That’s where you receive it.  Right next to that it says “Input Frequency 467.575 MHz”. That is the frequency that you must transmit to the repeater on.  That’s how full duplex repeaters work, they receive on one frequency and simultaneously transmit on another.  Receiving and transmitting simultaneously is called “full duplex.” There’s also simplex which means transmitting and receiving at different times on the same frequency.  
Your handheld radio, if it’s a designed to be a GMRS radio, has a group of repeater channels.  Sometimes they’re numbered 23-30, sometimes they’re labeled rp15-rp22 or something like that. They automatically transmit on the repeater input frequency and receive on the repeater output frequency.

Tones are used to limit access.  They reduce interruptions from people on the same frequency but they don’t offer any security.

[priller]

10 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:

Are you asking about that Charlotte 575?
Yes, that’s a repeater.  See how it has a frequency of 462.575 MHz.  That’s where you receive it.  Right next to that it says “Input Frequency 467.575 MHz”. That is the frequency that you must transmit to the repeater on.  That’s how full duplex repeaters work, they receive on one frequency and simultaneously transmit on another.  Receiving and transmitting simultaneously is called “full duplex.” There’s also simplex which means transmitting and receiving at different times on the same frequency.  
Your handheld radio, if it’s a designed to be a GMRS radio, has a group of repeater channels.  Sometimes they’re numbered 23-30, sometimes they’re labeled rp15-rp22 or something like that. They automatically transmit on the repeater input frequency and receive on the repeater output frequency.

Tones are used to limit access.  They reduce interruptions from people on the same frequency but they don’t offer any security.

Thanks Steve, I guess I was confusing myself between all of the listings on RadioReference, whether those are repeaters or just chat 'nets.

I've been listening to plenty of ham chatter (I'm not licensed yet on amateur), but yet to make GMRS contacts.  Having a lot of fun trying to figure it all out.

Thanks again

[Guest]

What he said.  It’s right there on the link you sent right next to the out out frequency.   Unless I don’t understand the question. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, priller said:

Thanks Steve, I guess I was confusing myself between all of the listings on RadioReference, whether those are repeaters or just chat 'nets.

I've been listening to plenty of ham chatter (I'm not licensed yet on amateur), but yet to make GMRS contacts.  Having a lot of fun trying to figure it all out.

Thanks again

What is a “chat net”.   Nets usually, not always, happen on repeaters.  It’s usually a time to take roll call and test equipment.   Chatting is chatting. Usually happens on repeaters and simplex.  

[SteveShannon]

3 minutes ago, priller said:

Thanks Steve, I guess I was confusing myself between all of the listings on RadioReference, whether those are repeaters or just chat 'nets.

I've been listening to plenty of ham chatter (I'm not licensed yet on amateur), but yet to make GMRS contacts.  Having a lot of fun trying to figure it all out.

Thanks again

Every one of those is a repeater. Nets are usually held on repeaters.

[priller]

9 minutes ago, Socalgmrs said:

What is a “chat net”.   Nets usually, not always, happen on repeaters.  It’s usually a time to take roll call and test equipment.   Chatting is chatting. Usually happens on repeaters and simplex.  

Yep you are right, it's not a net, just chatting on repeater.  I think I confused myself at first thinking it was just local simplex.

I'm sure once I make first GMRS contact things will make a bit more sense.

I'm trying to use https://mygmrs.com/repeater/4438 as it should cover my location.  Should be simple enough to reach and use correct tone, but I haven't been able to confirm with contact or squelch tail yet.  Will keep trying.  I'm just a noob with HT, but having fun.

Thanks for the help

[priller]

15 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:

Every one of those is a repeater. Nets are usually held on repeaters.

Thanks Steve!

[SteveShannon]

46 minutes ago, priller said:

Yep you are right, it's not a net, just chatting on repeater.  I think I confused myself at first thinking it was just local simplex.

I'm sure once I make first GMRS contact things will make a bit more sense.

I'm trying to use https://mygmrs.com/repeater/4438 as it should cover my location.  Should be simple enough to reach and use correct tone, but I haven't been able to confirm with contact or squelch tail yet.  Will keep trying.  I'm just a noob with HT, but having fun.

Thanks for the help

Start by listening without a DPL code on the receive side.  Understand that not all repeaters have a squelch tail and many will not have people listening at all times. By listening without a code or tone you’ll hear everything.  
Once you are sure you’re hearing the repeater work on transmitting to the repeater.
You must have the right DPL code on your transmitter or the repeater will disregard your transmission. 
Once you know you are able to transmit to the repeater, then go back and add a tone or code to your receiver to limit what you receive to the repeater.

[priller]

1 hour ago, SteveShannon said:

Start by listening without a DPL code on the receive side.  Understand that not all repeaters have a squelch tail and many will not have people listening at all times. By listening without a code or tone you’ll hear everything.  
Once you are sure you’re hearing the repeater work on transmitting to the repeater.
You must have the right DPL code on your transmitter or the repeater will disregard your transmission. 
Once you know you are able to transmit to the repeater, then go back and add a tone or code to your receiver to limit what you receive to the repeater.

Extremely helpful thanks you again!!!!!

[WQAI363]

6 hours ago, priller said:

Morning all, can I get a sanity check on local freqs/tones/repeaters/nets?

https://www.radioreference.com/db/browse/ctid/1946/ham

Using this as reference point, for the GMRS freq at bottom of page.  That's not a repeater right?  That's just a freq+tone to use?

Same question for the Amateur bands listed in that link?

I need a GMRS Elmer to help me figure this all out haha.

Have a good day folks.

You're talking about the Charlotte 462.575 / 467.575? 

Yes sir, that's GMRS repeater pair alright. I didn't really notice what you were referring to, but that's a GMRS Repeater, not Amateur Radio 70cm.

[priller]

17 hours ago, WQAI363 said:

You're talking about the Charlotte 462.575 / 467.575? 

Yes sir, that's GMRS repeater pair alright. I didn't really notice what you were referring to, but that's a GMRS Repeater, not Amateur Radio 70cm.

Understood, thank you!

[WQAI363]

8 hours ago, priller said:

Understood, thank you!

No Problem, because with other commits I thought confusing you more! Glad that I was to shorten the answer for you.