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This is correct.. The antenna on both my Jeeps is mounted on the rear tailgate where all of the "experts" have decreed it "will not work!!!1" because the lack of a perfect ground plane.. It is true the antennas would likely perform better with a good ground plane but both antennas have an SWR of around 2, and I regularly talk with people dozens of miles away, and was able to hit a repeater 93 miles away.

DO I ?? Yesssireee, N9ZAS

The need for a ground plane are overrated. Here's a pic of the NMO2/70B on my new 2025 Goldwing, which is mounted in the right rear. As you can see there's no ground plane and the performance is equal to the NMO2/70B on the roof of my truck. You couldn't tell the difference in a double-blind test. I can hold a repeater in Baltimore all the way to down to the Patuxent river bridge in Southern Maryland with both vehicles. If there's an antenna any better than the Larsen I haven't found it.

When a radio-dork says "CW", 99.9999999999999998% of the time, he is talking about, referring to, or eluding to Morse-Code... Do you even have a license bro?

I use the 2X4 with no ground plane and it's Consistently 1.2 -1.4.1 on 2m/ Murs/70cm/ and Gmrs and even covers 222mhz. @1.5.1 swr although it's not really intended for that band. The previous antennas are no ground plane, but seem to perform better with one.

Thank you, I'll check them out. I've looked into the SBB-5 but couldn't tell if it's NGP or not. Its product sheet says something like non-radial, but the CA2X4SR says the same on its product sheet, and definitely needs a ground plane.

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The Comet SBB-5 are Excellent for mobile and even base use, and are ground independent. Also the Diamond SG-7900 as well with much more gain, and ground independent, but requires a permanent mount, or a 5" Magnet.

If you use FB on your phone its tracking you as well, Google maps keep track of your locations as well.

Yes this is correct, the continuous pinging was put into effect back in mid 90's early 2000's for the purpose of 911 being able to get your location if you were calling for help. The only way to stop it is to take your battery out. even powering it off will still send an LNL(last known location) ping just before its fully off.

Open to suggestions. The criteria: 2m, 70cm, GMRS. Acceptable SWR with a lip-mount with its inadequate ground plane (pictured in my original post). Mobile NMO mount I have the following, already: Laird/TE B4505CN - GMRS only, no ground plane required. Works great in that application. 5dBi gain. MXTA26 - GMRS only, prefers a decent ground plane to achieve reasonable SWR. 6dBi gain. MXTA25 (ghost) - GMRS only, ground plane preferred to achieve <2.4SWR. 3dBi gain. HYS-1T - GMRS only, 3dBi gain, ground plane required for reasonable SWR. Comet CA2X4SR-NMO - 2m, 70cm, GMRS. Fantastic with a good ground plane. Poor SWR with an inferior ground plane. I don't mind buying the right thing for my application. The Larson NMO2/70B seems to check the boxes, but if there's something better I'm overlooking please let me know.

I have a DB-25-G... it is good, but it really works best using it on one channel at a time instead of trying to monitor all 4 that it can at a time. (sort of)... I don't like how it auto jumps to last channel it got activity on (even if it is signal that is squelched out because of the tones you have on that frequency/channel). It's interface is annoying if you are monitoring more than one channel because that. it can switch the channel you transmit on right before you reply and that is really stinks. and switching from multi channel monitoring would be better if you had a single keypress to do it... but you haev to do about 3 or four things in a specific order to do that so... yeah. Mostly menu / interface software that I don't like on it.

Yeah, toting around an HT with a 5 foot antenna is a little annoying! FRS is a little more convenient and less obvious when you are walking around.

Continuous Wave, but I'm sure you knew that lol!

That is Cool !! Where did you come across that little gem ?

in search of 15 minutes of fame... and intstead they get busted. LOL!

They Are solid antennas, although there are Better models out there for the 2m/70cm bands.

I have a HA1G which is a GMRS radio from retevis.

I can’t get my radio to operate off the repeater system need help

Thanks so much!

If they understand how radios work and want a handheld, then this is probably true.. You can get 10X - 100x or more farz with an FRS radio than you can with an FM CB handheld with the same-size antenna..

As far as I can determine, exactly nobody in the US uses FM CB. I would think FM with PL tones would be very good for people traveling in a group. Perhaps they just get FRS radios.

Apparently people rat themselves out via social media pretty frequently. You'd think they'd know better after a few of them got busted, but they keep doing it.

This man governments!

Just program them in groups. 1-100 is GMRS and 101-200 is MURS or whatever. That way you don't need to remember a weird channel number. Always starts from 1 and goes to 100. Just ignore the 100 on the MURS.