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I'll be back home in a couple hours. When I get back I'll check and see if the repeater is up running. The repeater owner has been doing some upgrading on his repeaters lately.

You are practically under the repeater so the power loss you are experiencing shouldn't prevent you from hitting the repeater, you'll probably just not hearing it if you have a tone set on the receive channel.

That'll help temporarily. You just can't have any tone set on the receive side

No tone or code protection on the receive channel. Diamond Pt. does not transmit any tone out nor does any of the 575 transmitters up in that area. CSQ means Carrier Squelch.

Make sure that you are CSQ on the receive frequency and that you're on RP16 to transmit on 467.575 for Diamond Point.

What channel and tone are you transmitting on with your Midland?

I was around back in the days when 462.675 was designated for emergency use only and for point-to-point communications for REACTS. My GMRS license back in that day stated that 462.675 MHz was for emergency use only. Orange County REACT was one of the licensees that had authorization to use a repeater on 462.675 MHz in the 70s and they had a repeater on Santiago Peak for all the REACT monitors to relay information. This repeater is still in existence today and still owned by Crest Communications and used by their Club members. In later years, the FCC deregulated the use of 462.675 MHz as an emergency only and the North Shore Emergency Association was instrumental in getting the acceptance of the 462.675 MHz GMRS as a highway calling channel with the 141.3 Hz as the national travel tone. Here is some info from the North Shore Emergency Association on the history of the National Travel Channel: This briefly discusses how the "travel tone" of 141.3 Hz and the national calling/emergency frequency of 462.675 MHz came to be. NSEA was one of the very first adopters of GMRS in the early 1970s, then the Class "A" Citizens Band. Here's a quick snippet from the link: NSEA members were instrumental in bringing UHF technology to other public service groups in CB, especially R.E.A.C.T. (Radio Emergency Associated Citizens Teams). Beginning in 1976 key NSEA members spent extensive time meeting with REACT teams in more than a dozen-and-a-half different states, bringing a portable repeater, together with a number of mobile and portable units for field demonstrations...As a result, over 200 personal use repeater systems (all on the same frequency [462.675 MHz]) were set up throughout the United States. In recognition of this trend of explosive growth the Federal Communications Commission formally recognized our frequency [462.675 MHz] as the national emergency and traveler's assistance channel in the Part 95A Rules and Regulations. Below is some info from Wikipedia on the National calling and highway channel; GMRS: 462.675 MHz is a UHF mobile distress and road information calling frequency allocated to the General Mobile Radio Service and used throughout Alaska and Canada for emergency communications; sometimes referred to as "Orange Dot" by some transceiver manufacturers who associated a frequency with a color-code for ease of channel coordination, until the creation of the Family Radio Service, in 1996, "GMRS 675" or Channel 6/20 on mobile radios today. It can have a repeater input frequency of 467.675 MHz, and a tone squelch of 141.3 Hz. The national calling channel is still recognized by some GMRS users and Clubs that are still alive and well but the channel may not be widely recognized by the newer GMRS users today.

Channel 20, 462.675 MHz, has been designated as a Travel Channel with 141.3 Hz encoding only, as the Travel Tone, with CSQ on receive, for the last couple of decades.

Ah, that's my mistake. I misspoke. Not owning a consumer grade radio or have read an user's manual for one of those radios I would have never thought that Motorola would have used a term like that. I do get it why they would

Below is a copy and paste of what I posted earlier today. Are you referring that I said "fixed station" in the first paragraph? There are only three paragraphs, can you point out which paragraph I said that? "All stations (radio devices/equipment units) connected to an antenna that is affixed to a stationary structure (tower or building) are fixed bases because they are not and can not operate in transport (be moved at any given time) thus is a fixed location and is a base operated equipment. A radio device/equipment) connected to an antenna affixed to a vehicle/vessel/aircraft that can be in transport are mobile units."

I don't.

Did you read the definition of a Fixed Station in Part 95.303 Copied directly from Part 95.303 47 CFR 95.303 “Fixed station” Fixed station. A station at a fixed location that directly communicates with other fixed stations only.

I really don't care. Just read the rules. It's all there. People are not completely reading the rules and I already pointed/cited the rule in question out. If the rule that I point out is not to your liking I can't help that and no one has come back and explain what than does that particular rule mean than. All people have to do is than explain the rule I pointed out. No, they can't do that because they don't know how.

I never said that all at home GMRS stations are fixed stations by rule. I said they are fixed locations thus depending on how that station and to who you are communicating with that station at a fixed location will define the class of station by Part 95 rather if your are a fixed Base or fixed station, there is a difference by definition

Where did I state a location dictates the class of station?

You must be an Amateur than and I don't mean a HAM radio operator.

You better go back in completely reread Part 95 and get back to me with your findings and I don't mean just subparts A and E.

Part 95.303 provides the a clear definition on the various classes of stations for all subparts of Part 95 radio services.

All stations (radio devices/equipment units) connected to an antenna that is affixed to a stationary structure (tower or building) are fixed bases because they are not and can not operate in transport (be moved at any given time) thus is a fixed location and is a base operated equipment. A radio device/equipment) connected to an antenna affixed to a vehicle/vessel/aircraft that can be in transport are mobile units. By rule definition of Part 95, Subpart E, any fixed base that communicates with another fixed base would be defined as and be operating as a fixed station thus must operate pursuant to Parts 95.1763 (a) & (c) and 95.1767 (a)(2). The type of radio equipment (table top radio equipment as opposed to a radio that is normally hanging under a dash/installed in a vehicle) does not have any bearing on the station class of operation. It is based/defined on how/where the radio device being operated and the antenna mounting.

There is no such thing as Interference eliminator codes that Motorola ever used. Anyways, DPL and PL do not eliminate the so called interference it just keeps you from hearing the audio/noise of the interference source not eliminate it. To answer your question regarding are the old Motorola radios compatible with GMRS repeaters? Maybe and maybe not. Depending on the model/series of the old Motorola radios, most likely the GMRS Repeater(s) is/are operating wideband than there would not be a problem, today. A small majority of the GMRS repeaters operate narrowband and depending on the model series of those old Motorola radios, they could pose a problem if they can not operate narrowband with a narrowband operated repeater. Although, you will still access the narrowband operated repeater with a wideband radio, the audio quality will not be optimum. What Motorola⁹ model/series radios are they?

Multi-band antennae are compromises and not ideal when it comes to great distances. It's best to use antennae specific to your operating band for optimum performance and for the farz you're trying to achieve.

It is my understanding that that Rubicon guy is really not a Rubicon guy and he is really a Nissan guy with a Chinese made Jeep Key Fob. Real Izarubicon people drive Rubicons with real American Jeep Keep Fobs.

Under the same operating parameters/conditions, a HAM radio/frequency won't make any difference or be anymore successful.

Make and model of the equipment?

The CDM series radios were programmed by CPS and not RSS thus a 32-bit XP operating system is required. As for having a DOS machine for the older model radios, I had a Pendium XP laptop reconfigured as a DOS with DOS 6.2 and it works great for my HT1000, MT2000, and Visar radios. However, the clock speed is too fast for Analog Sabers, and the various Radius model radios. The RSS goes through the motion of reading the codeplug but will not save the codeplug file after the read.