Adamdaj

Thank you! I should stated in my first post that I agree that an exam is necessary. I put my mouth too many times and most of the time, I don't think things out too thoroughly and I wind up with athlete's Toung. LOL. Now I feel embarrassed, because I am a VE. It's seems strange that a VE would even think about what I posted. So even though you said no need to apologize, I just explain with excusing myself. 73 to you!

Wait a minute, I apologize for my post. Yes, I know, and I agree the reason for an examination to obtain an Amateur Radio license. I'm verry sorry for my previous post, it was stupid, and I should read it prior to posting. However, I would never consider Amateur Radio to be Toy. Just like Tools in a garage, Amateur Radio is a Tool and should be consider as such. When I was writing this, I probably was thinking about LEARN SYSTEM requiring an examination. I past my Tech and General, unless I'm gone for Extra, I refuse to take an examination. Especially to join an organization that uses GMRS. I have and I understand the FCC rules and regulations.

I don't want to sound as if I'm harping on what is a small technical violation, but it just doesn't make sense. At lease from my prospective, no matter whether the repeater is an opened or closed system, all licensees should comply with the FCC's rules and regulations regarding station identification, right? The majority of the members on the LEARN SYSTEM never IDs themselves. They just come online and of with their unit number, such as units 640 and 822. Listening to them sometimes give a good laugh, especially unit 822. Unit 822 asked me years ago, if I wanted to join. At the time I wasn't able afford the dues, but I think that I able afford $25.00 a month or $30.00 a month, but I draw the line on taken an exam. First of all, the FCC didn't require me to take an exam for GMRS. I didn't and understood why it is necessary for Amateur Radio to take examinations.

i know what I just posted, so I don't want to like I'm repeating, What I should have said, I understand why most seasoned Amateur Radio Operators will say using Ten Codes sounds like CB Radio jargon, no room in Amateur Radio or other services. Everyone knows that Truckers and other users have copied off from Public Safety, so those knuckle heads misuse those same codes. Beside those same Amateur Radio Operators use texting short cuts on today's technology. Both on the Amateur Radio Service and of course the commercial lines Don't tell me Ten Codes shouldn't be used, because it sounds like CB radio dwellers. Then again, Ten Codes have been fading out, due to the majority of Ten Codes have different meanings. If you're gone use tool, use it as it was intended. Don't copy cat from what hear in motion pictures or TV shows, because you need to sound professional even if it volunteering. 73 TO ALL

Last year when I was working at MS 150 City to Shore, I was assigned to working Dispatch / Net Control. I did receive some slack from a fellow Amateur Radio for using 10 codes on the 2m repeater and GMRS repeater. Of course, I understand what that person saying, you don't want to heard, that's a BIG 10-4 GOOD BUDDY. After all, the 11 meter dwellers have really made a mockery of what started in the public safety. Sometimes have problems with my speech, but I figured using Ten Codes help me conveying information that I need to get out. There's nothing wrong with using Ten Codes on GMRS or Amateur Radio, as long as the group that you're working are on board with the protocol.

According to the FCC's Rules and Regulations that would be Big NO. Just as the name implies, the Multi Use Radio Service was created for commercial and noncommercial use, even though MURS is in part 95 J. FM Voice Data PC to PC Texting Image

You 're right, I sound like a Hall Monitor. Yep, I forgot many times I have heard Amateur Radio Operator Talking up a storm without IDing. The majority them just accidentally forget and others are bananas, talking without a License. I apologize for sounding like uneducated bum.

So, I wasn't incorrect at all. Repeaters aren't required to Identify, so I don't think know what you meant saying that was incorrect. As far as I, I had everything correct. Maybe I didn't worded as the FCC has it, but I wasn't wrong. Then again, I may have made a mistake with the Family Members using the license, but Everything was correct.

I know that I have read the current FCC part 95 E rules and regulations and tried to comprehend them. However, I may have misinterpreted the rules for repeaters. According to FCC part 95 E rules and regulations, GMRS Repeaters aren't required to ID, but as far as individual licensees and their family members must ID at the First and Last Transmission and ever 15 minutes during a conversation or QSO. Speaking of individual licensees and their family members Identification. I have monitored the LEARN 462.575 repeater and I have noticed that only a few members ID as required by the FCC. However, the majority of LEARN membership just use their unit number, such as unit 822. If Amateur Radio Operators did this, the OOs would have a field day sending reports to the FCC and possibly Fox Hunting.

Now that I have purchased a BTECH GMRS PRO, I really like this radio. Of course, it's not as fancy as a Motorola or Kenwood, but it gets the job done. I like ability to program on the fly and the to monitor railroad channels if take this with on Amtrak down to Tampa Florida.

My advice would be to follow the current advice from the two previous posts. Another IDEA would be to mount on the Driver's side hood and route the feedline though the firewall.

My GMRS PRO has removeable antenna and yes it does transmit and receive on all 22 simplex channels. I wasn't lucky. My radio only transmits on FRS/GMRS frequencies. It is a scanner to monitor AAR Channels and some Amateur Radio frequencies plus MURS. I like get another one to keep my Father's vehicle, because he doesn't have a Cell Phone and he doesn't has an amateur radio license. My Father will not install GMRS mobile, but I guess he'll allow me to keep an HT in the Glove Box

Michael Lax has it correct. There really isn't a mobile multi band transceiver, at least not FCC typed accepted for multi services. I could just imagine if the FCC approved a manufacture for Multi Service multi band transceiver, it would be chaos in between services. Sure, you could modify your radio, but you would have to do testing to keep in compliance even though it's wouldn't ever be type accepted. I have had some of my radios modified, but I regret doing that now. I want a radio that handled two service, but I realize I was breaking rules & regulations by doing that. However, I still continue to use my CS-800D and CS-800 for Amateur Radio DMR and GMRS,even though both of those radios are part 90 and not 95 or 97

Apologize for spell! I grew in Philadelphia that's I can thank the Philadelphia School District for. Just Kidding, but I wish this technology was around back the 90s, of course, my generation is one of the last to remember Telephone Booths and Arcades. I sort of trading stamps not S&H, but some other stamps that I'm pretty sure IGA use to give out maybe A&P stores did too. Well Happy New Year!

Man,I feel like a little boy enjoying what I got in the mail yesterday. I am really impressed with the radio. It's whole lot simpler than a Rubic cube, If there's anyone out there that remembers that crazy puzzle. The only thing I wish the radio was capable of doing, was monitor the digital formats, such DMR and IDAS/NXDN. This way I could monitor AAR channels on Class 1 railroads. Sure would useful Amtrak Silver Meteor and the Silver Star. I could monitor while riding the rails. 73s Happy 2023!

I just purchased the BTEC GMRS PRO today online, even though I have plenty of radios that I could use. Sure, they maybe not be typed accepted, but the FCC hasn't fined users for uncertified radio, unless there was something seriously wrong with a particular radio and the operator failed to correct the problem. Anyway, I don't need to start a back-and-forth discussion on whether I just misinterpreted the R&Rs or I'm completely wrong. I'm sure manufacturers or vendors would need bank loan to pay fine if the FCC caught them selling PART 90 OR 97 to operate in 95 territories. To all who have or read my post, Happy Holidays!

I have always been interested in two-way radios since the age 4 or 5. My Father wasn't and still is not interested in two-way radios. I guess with TV shows from late 1970s to mid 1980s, I got hooked. Got first CB from my father's brother and learn an important lesson about AC and DC, which I'll skip the details. Of course, by the late 80s manufacturers still had included FCC forms for a Class D individual license. You really haven't missed anything, because CB radio became Constant Bull XXXX. GMRS which to me still is a part FCC part 95 A and now 95 E. due to recent changes. Happy Holidays 73 DE WQAI363

I'm sorry that I posted this topic. I really didn't weigh all the pros and cons of having two radio services in one. However, that would be a good mobile or portable to have. I should have realized there will knuckle heads coming out of the woodwork and causing mayhem. So I will apologize for even posting this.

I didn't realize that Cobra had ceased productions on that radio. I assume that particular radio consumers were caught using the Marine Channels on land and not the FRS/GMRS as intended. However, I don't see any reason that the FCC wouldn't approve certification for two radio services in the same radio, such as GMRS and MURS. I know that they're in two different sub sections, but isn't complicated like Cobra's radio that was meant primarily for MARITME use. Both services are available for consumers and getting GMRS license is fine, but why carry two different radios when one radio with the certification can solve the problem of not carrying two radios.

I realize they're two different sections of part 95, but that shouldn't prevent manufactures from obtaining typed acceptance for two service for a radio that could useful. UNIDEN has HT on the market for MARINE as well as FRS GMRS. Of course, I don't Believe the radio repeater capable on GMRS, it's typed accepted for Part 80 and 95 E. Don't tell me GMRS and MURS CAN NOT BE COMBINE. I UNIDEN was able obtain type acceptance for Maine and FRS/GMRS, then it's possible for a manufacture to acquire type acceptance for GMRS and MURS.

Without mentioning the Radio vender's Name, I watched a video featuring the WOUXUN KG1000M MURS Mobile Radio. This made me wonder why WOUXUN didn't just combine GMRS and MURS into one dual band radio. This way it gives consumers the ability flip between VHF and UHF. Of course, GMRS would be more likely to get the most use age out of the two radio services. Then again, VHF simplex has some advantages where UHF simplex doesn't. I won't say that MURS or GMRS better than the other, but I will say that there are two tools that are a must in the communication toolbox. One thing that was confusing to me when they mentioned the split tone capability on the KG1000M. Why would WOUXUN include split tone capability on a MURS radio, when the FCC part 95 J forbids the use of repeaters on MURS?

Of course, I may be a little too late, but you could go wrong join the ARRL. Then again, it is your choice. There may be some benefits that you'll find helpful or not, but it's your decision. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

Back in 1993 the Town Watch group that I was member of, switched from CB radio to GMRS. At that time only two of our members had GMRS licenses. The rest of the members operated under those licenses until we moved to a LMR system. We continued to use the same radios with new ones added to fleet. but I guess the FCC did or still does make an exception for community emergency volunteer groups.

BTECH GMRS PRO looks like everything one person would want in a radio. The ability to monitor other services and to stay in touch with friends' family or coworkers.

The simple answer is, NO! I assume that you hold an Amateur Radio License as well a GMRS License. You're already aware that GMRS falls under FCC part 95 and Amateur Radio part 97. However, I myself use my Connect Systems CS-800D for Amateur Radio and GMRS, even though the radio is part 90 typed accepted, but sold as part 97 Amateur Radio.