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Mr Shannon - You Are Point Blank Wrong...... Re-Evaluate Your Research...... Again, As I Stated Yesterday On Another Forum Question, There Are Those That Will Consistently Argue There Point To Get The Last Word. All Cell, Public Safety, Municipal & Commercial Radio Site System Installations - Wrap N Connectors For Moisture..... I Can See Why, Among Other Things, WRKC935 Bailed On This Ridiculous Forum, As Is Mine After Tonight. Too Many Book Smart, But Street Less Then Street Knowledgeable Folks Posting Ridiculous Opinions For New Users. Good Luck To You All - Hope You Get In Your Last Word - Peace Out...........

Or..... Back To More You Tube Book Smart & Street Stupid Professors & Vids........ Good Luck In Finding The Solution To Properly Wrapping / Weatherproofing Your Station Outdoor RF Connectors.

N Type Connectors Are Not Sealed Any Better Then A UHF Connector - Neither Are Sealed To Outside Elements..... Amusing Statement - N Connectors Were Utilized In My 800 MHz Business Repeater Station, Along With My (2) Currant Large Footprint GMRS Repeater Stations, The Osceola 600 (Indiana) & Niles 725 (Michigan). So In Answer To Your Question, Yes I Have Seen An N Type Connector Or Two, & Know There Limitations For Outside Moisture Ingress........

N Type Connectors Are Not Sealed, Nor Are They Sealed Any Better Than Any Other RF Connector Used In An Outside Application. Grease On The Threads On A Coax Connector Has Nothing To Do With Preventing Moisture Ingress. They Are A Running Thread, Not A Pipe Thread, Therefore A Grease Compound Is Not The Solution For Proper Outside RF Connector Waterproofing. Proper Wrapping 1st With A Quality Butyl Tape From The Bottom Up & Then Covering With A Quality Electrical Tape, Again From The Bottom Up Will Ensure Proper Moisture Ingress To An Outside RF Connector.

Sounds Like The Start Of A Great Game Plan. Good Luck On Your RF Adventures.......

And It Is Not BS - It Is My Opinion On What I Would Do - Just As You Acknowledged. Further, I Never Said He Must Follow My Advice. You Sir, Need To Get Off Your High Horse & Stop Condemning Everyone's Opinion. Your Logic Is Your Opinion - And I Don't Necessarily Agree With Your Mindset On RF.......

Utilizing A 50 Watt Repeater With 20 Watt Mobiles Will Enhance Your System. If It Were Me - That Is Exactly The Upgrade I Would Use For My System........

DCS (Digital Coded Squelch) & DPL (Digital Private Line - Motorola Term) Are The Same. Most DPL Codes Also Have An (N) For Normal, Although Some Use (I) Meaning Inverted. DTCS (Digital Tone Coded Squelch) Is Also The Same, Just A Different Manufacturer's Term For A Digital Squelch Setting.

Well I'm Confused With The Question & Answers. Why The Concern About A 5 Kilohertz (kHz) Offset On GMRS Channels / Frequencies ? Offsets For GMRS Repeater Pairs Are 5 Megahertz (MHz) Guessing The Question Had A Typo, Or Are You Attempting Something Else ?

That Is Correct. The Forum Log In Is Independent Of The myGMRS Site Log In Which Enables The Advertising Blocking For Premium Members.

Not That It Matters, But A Subscriber With A Premium Membership Must Log In To myGMRS For The Ad Blocker To Be Effective. I'm A Premium User & Will See Ads Unless I Log In.

The Motorola R56 Manual Is The Standard Used By Most Public Safety Communication Sites For System Grounding. Tap / Click On Chapters 4 & 5 To View. https://northgeorgiacommunications.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Motorola-Standards-and-Guidelines-for-Communication-Sites-R56-Manual.pdf

Agreed, But To A Limited Extent. Detailed Information On Elevations Is Not Provided For A True Site Evaluation. So For Me - I Would Still Prefer 50 Watt Mobiles For Simplex, Compared To The Limited Use Of A Lower Tier Simplex Repeater System, Just To Be Able To Use GMRS Potable Radios. Not Trying To Slam Or Condemn Folks On Their Ventures, But Some Folks Always Want To Attempt To Win Their Point Of View, Or Argue It. I Always Offer To My Repeater Users A Simple Bit Of Advice, Weather It Be Antennas, Coax Or Radio Choices - Application, Application, & Applications. What Are You Attempting To Accomplish ? That Should Be The Main Element For A GMRS Operator To Make The Right Decisions Or Choices For Their Particular Use Or Station Purpose. Personal Opinions Such As Mine & Others Should Be Looked At As Comments & Nothing Else, Unless Asked. WSFN703 - Good Luck On Your Simplex Repeater Station - Not A Thumbs Up For Me........

And At The End Of The Day - In My Opinion - (2) 50 Watt GMRS Mobiles With A Quality 5/8 Wave Antenna Will Work Just As Well, If Not Even Better.

I Use A Cigarette Lighter Power Connection For My 45 Watt Vertex Standard VX-4600. It Has Performed Flawlessly For The Last 1 1/2 Years. Good Battery Connection Terminals & Battery Condition, Are More Important In My Opinion........

Application, Application & Application..... Equipment, Power & Antenna Will Dictate What You Are Wanting To Accomplish - Connect To A GMRS Station From Your Location On A Selected Repeater Selection Or By Simplex..... Desired Application Is The 1st Question That Needs Answered......

Go For The 50 Watt Radio. Proved It Time & Time Again. "Height & Might Rules" - A 3db Gain Increase In Transmitter Output Power Is Substantial......

All Relevant To Your Station Class License. Per FCC Station Class Codes: FB6 - Fixed Base For Profit Station FB7 - Fixed Base Not For Profit Station https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/FCC_Station_Class_Codes

Check This Site For Your Area: https://www.repeaterbook.com/index.php/en-us/

Politics & Religion - The Two Topics That Seem To Start Wars Around The World. I Tend To Stay Away From Those Type Of Convos..........

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Aside From My Kenwood, Motorola & Vertex Standard UHF Radios I Use Daily For All My GMRS Use, I Do Have (8) Retevis RB75 Units That I Use For Hunting, Fishing & All Other Similar Outdoor Activities. They Are IP67 Rated, 5Watt, Have A 4500mAh Battery, Durable, Talk Good & Are Fairly Priced. Perfect Outdoorsman Radio & You Won't Cry If Someone Trashes One Out. https://www.retevis.com/rb75-waterproof-long-standby-gmrs-two-way-radios-us Also Available At Amazon.......

Repeater Antenna HAAT & ERP Has A Lot More To Do With Access & Reception From A Site When In Comparison. One Cannot Evaluate Different Site Performance Results If All Parameters & Infrastructure Elements Are Not Equal. Your Observation Has Nothing To Do With Offsets In Programming.

I Wouldn't If It Were My Radio......... Connect A Dummy Load Or Antenna In Case You Accidentally Transmit So You Don't Jeopardize The Amplifier Finals. But If Just A Power Up To Program & No Chance Of Transmitting - Go For It.

A Short / Stubby (Helical) Antenna In UHF & VHF, Has Been Used For Many Years In Public Safety Applications. I Personally Use An OEM KRA23M Kenwood Helical On My NX 1300 AU With Actually Equal To Or Better Performance Than The Standard Whip. You Will Usually Find The Same Results With A Good Quality Stubby Antenna.