marcspaz

Hey folks... one of the big things many new users (and some of us old guys) enjoy doing is figuring out how far their radio can reach. It's always fun to contact someone from say 80 or 100 miles away on a handheld radio. In September of 2023, we went as a group up to Reddish Knob and played Radio for the afternoon. Everyone either used their handheld radio, mobile radio, and some extravagant "portable" setups to see what kind of range they could get from the mountain top. With GMRS (and some amateur radio) being a line of site service, its possible to make contacts from as far as 150-180 miles away while we are up there. I personally talked about 162 miles. We had a great time. Does anyone have any interest in doing something like this again this Spring? Just bring whatever gear you want to test out... you can try some of my gear, etc. It is paved all the way to the top of the mountain and any vehicle can access it.

Gifted, actually. LoL

@WRYS709 Lets take a deep breath for a second... I've been talking with people in this thread since April of 2024. We are all just having a conversation. I am cool with anyone having an opinion about anything. Honestly, I don't have a dog in the fight because I don't use GMRS radios any more, and don't really care who buys what. I'm not going to tell anyone how to spend their money nor what their opinion should be. I merely expressed why I think many people are willing to spend a bit more money for Midland Micro Mobile radios. If you disagree... I'm fine with that. That said, I made a statement "People are willing to pay for easy out of the box and reliable." Your response to my opinion was "Except that these "Midland" threads are about the "unreliability" of Midland radios for one reason or another!" So, you went from an opinion based conversation to expressing a supposed fact to rebuke my anecdotal observation. I simply pointed out that what you shared (including this thread) is indeed NOT a group of facts supporting your opinion. There is nothing in those threads (nor this one) that support claiming the statement that "Midland radios have a reliability problem" is a fact. The funny part is, the title of this thread says they don't think Midland radios are very good. There is a difference between good (a loose performance description) and reliable. I can have a poor quality radio that is reliable. Anyway. if you want to have a debate over the reliability of Midland Micro Mobile radios, I don't think either of us have access to accurate data to express facts to support our opinions. So, it would be somewhat pointless. If you are going to try to rebuke my opinion by sharing a bunch of links to threads, at least pick some threads that actually have something to do with the radios being unreliable and (preferably) abundant enough to at least anecdotally support your claim. Unless you feel like it's something you really need to do, I wouldn't waste your time trying to convince me. Like I said, I disagree due to personal experience with hundreds of radios over years of experience AND I really don't care. At least I don't care beyond the point of possibly helping the people here. I have no personal interest.

Out all the threads you quoted, one guy "may have" had a bad mic, but no resolution was shared. The rest of them were end-user problems. I would hardly call that an abundance of evidence that Midland products are unreliable. Especially compared to their reported revenue of over $19 million a year from their consumer markets. That's a lot of radios sold compared to a few threads from people who don't understand narrow band vs wide band, don't know how to use a computer, or no one will talk to them.

I don't recall seeing any significant amount of threads from actual owners complaining about reliability. I have owned and used several and installed hundreds of them over last 4 or 5 years. I haven't heard a single person complain to me. If they were really unreliable, I think their sales would suffer and as a person who deals with them regularly, I would have had at least 1 person complain to me. The reality is, every Midland owner who came to me for service, either had antenna or coax problems. I've never seen someone come back to me who actually had a failed radio.

People are willing to pay for easy out of the box and reliable.

My pleasure. I'm glad you had a chance to check it out. Reach out if you have questions. I'm always around.

I am out and about right now, so I can't look up the actual code. The rules very specifically state who can use (share) your license/radio, being limited to immediate family.

I'm pretty sure Steve is correct on this one.

That is not correct. A 5 dB loss for the total length of cable with 10w in would be 3w out. That is a lot of loss.

5 dB is more than double what it should be. It should be about 2 dB of loss. I would think something is wrong somewhere along the setup.

I have a base station, currently, but for more than a decade I would use the crossband repeater in my Jeep to talk on the repeaters. It was kind of a pain to go outside to switch repeaters, but it worked pretty well.

I would love to help you, but it varies per radio. If you could tell me what make and model radio you have, I could likely assist.

What radio?

That radio is a clone of a Yaesu FT-8900r. It does 2m/70cm/6m/10m. Diamond made an antenna especially for the FT-8900r, call the CR8900A. I had the setup and the antenna worked great on all 4 bands. Th only thing I didn't like was that if you wanted to use the radio on the top end of 10m, you had to shorten the whip, and if you wanted to use the bottom end of 10m, you had to lengthen it. There was no such thing as putting the adjustment in the middle and getting a good match across the 2MHz range. Also, the whip wasn't long enough to cover 26MHz. So, even though it was a good radio/antenna combo, you either need to be flexible about tuning it manually or spend a few hundred $$$ on a 12v automatic tuner.