Yeah it is a lot of button pushing. Lol but i was able to get through it. I worked in the fire service for 27 years and we use king radios for wildland fires. Now you want to talk about a messed up radio when it comes to programming good god, lol. So I was able to get through the rugged radio after a couple of trys. Not that ill ever use the flash light on the ht but holy crap you have to almost put in your social security number and a credit card to turn it on lol. But I got them programed. I still like the radio though actually its a solid build and feels good innit hand. Doest feel like it will come apart if you drop it. Ok great yeah I didn't have to worry about any offsets on those or my mobile a midland mtx275.