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ANd NO window filter on the RX or running the TX into a combiner or other filtering of any kind?

There is no DIRECT connection for the repeater if that is what you are hoping for. You will need to build or buy an audio interface that goes between the Pi and the Quantar. This is typically done with a CM108 USB sound card and some very precise soldering work. Look for the ASL (All Star Link) or HAM VoIP interface information pertaining to the mentioned CM108 interface.

Yes, there are devices like what you are describing, however, the cost associated with them isn't what most people would consider reasonable. A typical DAS (distributed antenna system amplifier, known as a BDA or BI-directional amplifier for UHF frequencies is going to cost around 15 to 18 THOUSAND dollars. This equipment is meant for providing coverage to public safety personnel when in a building responding to a call for service at the facility. So what are other REASONABLE options for you and your situation that don't cost more than a decent used car? First would be a base station radio with an external antenna. This can be connected to a Zello interface that can be used with your phone and the Zello app. This of course will work anywhere your phone will work if the computer interface is connected to the Internet. Obviously your phone with need either carrier signal or be attached to the Internet wirelessly, but it's a workable solution. A set up from that would be a Radio-Pro interface from CTI products. Coupled to a MotoTRBO radio, the phone app that works with this interface will add the ability to select channels on the radio remotely. This is not exactly cheap however. So I would be looking to find a used interface and hope it works. These interfaces typically come with a SINGLE license for the phone app so it would be a single connection sort of thing. Again, completely workable solution. I have this as well as Zello on a control station as a backup. Both work fine. Both are LEGAL methods of doing what you are talking about. From here it gets into the sketchy stuff from a federal regulation standpoint. NONE OF THIS IS SUGGESTED, while it's a technically workable solution, it runs afoul of regulations pertaining to radio communications. First would be a dual band radio with an outdoor antenna with crossband ability. VHF-UHF and a VHF portable radio for communications to the cross band repeater where the cross band radio is programmed for the repeater on one channel and the other channel programmed simplex to communicate to the portable radio. Second would be a set of back to back radios that did the same thing as the dual band radio. Again, if you go this route, turn the power DOWN all the way on the VHF radio to eliminate (or close to it) the signal getting outside the building on the VHF side.

I believe that SouthWest Ohio GMRS group opens up one of their repeaters for general access during Hamvention. You might try to find their web site and see if that is going to be the case.

OK, you said dropping the output power INCREASED the range? That points to a mistuned duplexer. Now, there is something else at play here as well. The little Celwave notch duplexers are just that, a notch filter. Meaning that any RF outside the notch comes in at full strength from the antenna. And the first RF stage in a radio (including most repeaters) is not band specific. So it can be deafened by RF from any band, not just the one of interest. Meaning if you put a repeater on a TV or radio station transmit tower, it's not going to work very well with a notch duplexer because the high RF field will get into the radio and decrease the gain of the first stage. A BPBR duplexer ONLY passes the frequency of interest plus a bit of RF right around the specific tuned frequency. This means it will filter out that stray RF from a high power transmitter in the near field of the antenna. This is also why you mount antenna's down away from broadcast transmit antenna's to get better performance form the installation. Duplexer power ratings THe small notch ones are 50 watts or less. Don't care what they say, I have tried and failed to run increased power through them.. It don't work. Larger ones go as high as 350 watts, but are typically limited to 200 watts or less. And most of this has to do with the maximum amount of isolation that's reasonably possible without increasing the insertion losses. Any type of filter, the insertion losses increase with the decrease of pass bandwidth. Very tight filters have high loss. They are sometimes necessary for some situations, but are not worth the loss unless those specific situations are present. Oddly enough, GMRS presents one of those specific situations. That being transmit frequencies being very closely spaced. Like the GMRS repeater channels. Going from 462.550 to 462.725 in 25Khz steps, they are all close. I personally have 3 GMRS repeaters connected to a total of 2 transmit antenna's with a common receive antenna. This was done with a very specific setup called a HYBRID combiner. This comblner consists of a standard UHF 4 port combiner where two or the circulators were fed directly into a 3 port power divider. Frequencies are 462.600 and 462.675. The can is tuned to the fequency directly in the middle between the two (462.6375). This allows it to work, but at a cost. With 50 watts coming from the radios, I get 18 watts out of the combiner on those frequencies. It talks 40 miles in most directions that are not blocked by hills and valleys. Tower height is 240 with the TX antenna at 180 but the HAAT or Height above average terrain, a calculated height based on antenna height from the ground and ground elevations for 20 miles in all directions every .5 miles divided up in 3 degree increments in the circle. In other words. Tower in middle of 40 circles, lines drawn out from tower every 3 degrees and everywhere there is a intersection of the lines a ground level height is taken and the number difference between the antenna height above sea level is compared. THose numbers are all averaged out and a single number is generated. Mine is 525 feet HAAT. Yes, it's done with a computer and yes it takes the computer about 10 minutes to complete the calculations. But my point is that I have 350 feet of feed line going to the antenna. The antenna gain is 6dBi. Using 7/8 cable so losses in the line are about 4 dB, so for all the loss it does remarkably well.

Yeah, I just got hit with this. I put in a request (for access to MY repeater) explaining to the guy he mush have screwed up and to please delete the faux repeaters.

I was just on there and it showed the stale and offline repeaters both. I had turned them on the last time I was on the site and it stayed that way. I would assume that a cookie or some other piece of data is dumped on your computer for it to do that. Your security settings may be set too high on your personal web browser for the settings to be remembered.

Well, lets pick this apart. Why not ask for a radio check when you are wanting to start a conversation? Best reason here is it comes off as being dishonest. And the issue with it, frankly is that when you, and others think it's OK and people get wise to it, then they refuse to even answer radio checks because they don't want to be dragged into a conversation they don't have time for. And you will get the operator requesting a radio check every 30 seconds until someone answers them or finally gives up. That leads to them being frustrated and possibly giving up on GMRS. Sort of like what's happened to ham radio. Towns full of repeaters that are silent. Using phonetics. There is zero need for it. It's FM short haul communications. If someone is rattling off their call sign too fast for you to understand, ask them to repeat it, or don't. We're playing hobby radio having routine conversations, not handling communications regarding the release of nuclear weapons. Are their specific times it should be used,,, yes, but not as a rule. And BTW U is Uniform,,, not Uma. If phonetics means so much to you, get a ham license and join the HF traffic nets. Then you can pass traffic where you get to do basically the whole message in phonetics. I say again Delta Oscar, space, India, Tango, space, Sierra, Oscar, Mike, Echo, Whiskey, Hotel, Echo, Romeo, Echo, space, Echo, Lima, Sierra, Echo. Because on FM short haul radio where your not fighting signal to noise issues it's frankly India,Romeo, Romeo, India, Tango, Alpha, Tango, India, November, Golf. (Irritating). And to me it's every bit as irritating as sitting here doing it on a written page. Why?? Because again it's NOT needed with this format. Unless of course you are receiving codes to verify the release of nuclear weapons have been authorized or some other equally important information is being conveyed. But I may have missed the memo about NORAD and STRATCOM switching from their communications systems to GMRS radio. Lastly, why get so wrapped up in all this. Simple. Sam Hams. Ham radio at one point was very active, and now it's all but silent except on HF. Doing stuff that the 'hams' do / did when it was active may well have contributed to the loss of interest. Stuff like using phonetics in the eyes of the new guys can easily turn them off to it because they are figuring it's gonna be informal chatting on radio. You start adding a bunch of structure past basic radio etiquette of allowing everyone a turn and not talking over others into phonetics, codes, and that sort of thing they feel out of place. And then loose interest. But, again, this is my personal opinion. Yours may differ, and that's fine too.

Why would YOU care about the other guys call sign? Again, it's NOT ham radio. We don't exchange QSL cards, create contact logs or any of that hammie stuff. To each his own I guess. I do love how you slipped in the FCC and the threat of not legally IDing your station by NOT using phonetics. Here's the thing with that. My license has WRKC935 on it as my assigned call, NOT Whiskey Romeo Kilo Charlie Nine Three Five. And my ham call doesn't appear in my ham license phonetically either. On HF, I will use the last three phonetically working a pileup when needed, but I rarely give my full call that way unless it's specifically requested. Again, to each their own.

A sure fire way to get ignored, and for others to turn their radios off to not hear it being repeated every 20 seconds. We have a ham repeater locally that you can 'converse' with. At the top and bottom of the hour it will ID. If you key up it will ID again, with a different ID. If you key again the OTHER IDer unit will then ID. All within 20 seconds. repeater: Voice ID, ME: KB8VUL, who's that? Repeater: Second Voice ID ME: Say it again, say it again Repeater: 3rd voice ID. NO one talks on the damn thing because you have to wait for it to ID so much. It's frankly annoying. So no one uses the repeater. They never bothered to set the controller and secondary Voice ID unit to CW ID in the back ground when the repeater was in use and the Secondary ID unit doesn't recognize it's in NET mode so it still VOICE ID's every 15 minutes. During sever weather nets and the like. As said, toss your ID and that you are listening, monitoring or ask if anyone is around. THat is not going to change in 20 seconds. YOU ARE NOT ON HF HAM RADIO. You are not looking to make a contact to someone that is spinning around on their VFO trying to find someone else to make contact with. GMRS don't work that way. Ham operators recognize that type of thing right off, sort of like speaking your call phonetically every time you give it. Don't do that crap either on ANY FM service. Phonetics are for poor signal situations to pass traffic in less than idea situations. NOT to have normal conversations on FM radio. Whne was the last time you hear a broadcast radio station use phonetics for their call sign? When was the last time you heard a public safety dispatcher or officer use phonetics to ID their stations? You haven't because they don't. And for FM stuff, you shouldn't either.

Looks good and it will get the job done. You need to get some outdoor rated ties and properly fasten the cable to the pole though. Those little zip ties will harden up in about 6 months and fall apart. They do make UV rated ties, and that's what needs to be used. Also, you need to put a drip loop in the cable. The way it's run right now, water will get on the cable and ride it down to the point it enters the building and probably run into the building if it's not totally sealed. This will cause water ingress and the problems that come with it. Think P-trap for plumbing. Create a low spot in the cable run and then have the cable come back up a little so the water runs to the lowest point and then falls off the wire before it gets to the entrance of the building.

Oh, for the love of God,,, do NOT call CQ on a GMRS or HAM repeater. And don't give you call phonetically, unless specifically ask to. It's a sure fire way to NOT get responded to. But don't ask for a radio check if you are looking to start up a conversation either. People that are monitoring that may have others things they are doing and only monitoring the radio may choose to respond to someone asking for a radio check because that's a quick conversation. A basic reply of "Yeah, it's working" is a lot different than a full on 10 minute discussion of the weather, or whatever topic you feel like discussing. And when you do that, by trying to start a discussion after being told your radios is working will be remembered and the next time you will not even get the basic reply that you are working. Fire off your call, ask if anyone is around, and see what happens. If you are on one of the linked repeater systems, chances are that someone is there and will chat with you. With stand alone repeaters, their might not be someone willing to talk at that point. And don't do it every 2 minutes until someone answers you either. Again, you may be heard by others that don't want to talk at that point but will choose to not talk later. I swear that someone needs to post a set of guide lines laying out the way to talk on radio. Things like waiting for a repeater to reset before keying up. Not getting into a direct two way conversation when several people are on the air and not 'passing' the conversation to the next person in the rotation (I am guilty of this one at times but some are more guilty than I am). Not entering a conversation and immediately trying to change the discussion topic. You know, things that you shouldn't do in a face to face conversation.

Which is the reason I said we need to do some critical thinking here. Yes, I delved into the tin foil hat stuff, but for a purpose. That being the ridiculousness of the prepper community and their support of these crap radios. I understand being financially limited when it comes to buying stuff (being broke). But we are talking about a group that spends thousands on supplies, and tens of thousands on arms and facility to make sure that they can survive when the SHTF. And I had a discussion with a guy about this that was pushing the Baofengs while standing there with a $3K AR-15 slung on his back, a $1000 pistol, $500 in armor plates and plate carrier, $100 pair of pants, $250 pair of boots and discussing using a $35 radio for personal communications. I'm sorry but WTF is wrong with this picture. And these folks don't have one pistol and one rifle. So there isn't a reason to not have military grade radios like the XTS /XTL Motorola's with full AES (government level) encryption) and the required keyloader, all of which are available on ebay, for their personal comm's. And I don't know, or even really think, that the commies are watching these guys through their cheap radios. But as mentioned, they are a force to be reckoned with. Even the US government backed away from them when they came face to face over that Cliven Bundy stand off. Because outside their cheap comm's, these guys do tend to take the whole militia thing pretty seriously. But then again, I suppose if I was in those groups, I wouldn't get on YouTube and discuss proper communications techniques at that level and instead push cheap radios to others from my sales website while having a cache of proper radios in my communications equipment. But yes, we are being watched. By tech companies, the government, other governments and who knows who else. And there is little that can be done to stop it.

Time to sit and do some critical thinking. Consider what the gain vs cost would be with this. The CCR are a lot of things, but they ain't dummies. What conversation would be worth putting additional stuff in a hobby radio that would 'war drive' to hack an open wireless network and pass on information. What would that information be? Would it be worth the cost of doing it? And more importantly would it be worth the cost of getting caught doing? If ANY device, cheap radio or other was to have such technology in it, that would be apparent on a spectrum analyzer. It would show up in the connected devices of wireless routers and access points when connected. So unless the radio was directly marketed with WiFi abilities, then it would stand out like a nude blonde woman that it was doing something nefarious. Now, if it DID contain WiFi connectivity, then it could route traffic to other places that could be used to monitor something. But unless it was some specific stuff, that wasn't a standard like WiFi and they were sending some other device that also operated outside the established standards like the weather balloon's (well maybe) that would play previously recorded stuff to that device, chances are NO. Now, what possible information would be gained. And this answer does lean to it being true. Government comm's are all gonna be pretty secure. And the government is NOT gonna be using that level of radio for anything they are involved in. But these radios are marketed to preppers and survivalists. And that is the biggest standing army on the planet. There is no larger group of armed individuals than the group comprised of hunters, prepper's and survivalists in the USA. And that number is staggeringly more than the next largest 'army'. Having information on those groups, including locations, possessed arms and affiliations would be important if there was a plan to invade the US with troops. And first strike locations could also be considered based on that information. But again,there are easier ways of getting it done. Including frequenting web sites and online groups catering to those folks. The biggest danger to an invading force is not the US military. With their rules of engagement and other regulations, they don't pose near as much of a threat as a bunch of red necks with an arsenal that exceed's that of some countries military arm's. And red necks don't follow the Geneva Convention or any other rules of engagement. They will operate with guerilla tactics similar to what we saw in the middle east during the American military occupation if it came to that. So are the commies spying on us, yep, without a doubt. But it's not gonna be with Baofengs and TYT radios. And the private citizens, at least some of them are the likely targets.

Well, here's some food for thought on antenna height. Amateur radio satellites orbit the earth at about 62 miles up. And can be higher. Their transmit power is typically 1 or 2 watts. The coverage footprint on the earth is also over 1000 miles wide in some instances. Yes, this is the extreme, but it's also over 60 miles of talk distance with 2 watts of power.

Yeah, because P25 is actually a standard there has to be backwards compatibility to some degree. Now Phase 2 which is TDMA and not FDMA (Phase 1 standard) are not compatible with each other but a radio that is Phase 2 compliant like the APX will still operate 'Phase 1'. I do know that the P25NX system got rolled into the p25.link system for the most part. The guy that had P25NX folded his tent and called it quits. Web site is gone and the Facebook group for the system was archived from what I have heard. I have a VHF repeater on the P25.link system in central Ohio. We do have some activity on P25 here in Ohio but it seems to be niche. There are a few of us that are active on HAM though. As mentioned I was just building code plugs for the radios and I know there is 6 UHF repeaters locally, 2 900Mhz repeaters and 3 VHF repeaters including mine in the area. But we are VERY well covered with repeaters of all types in Columbus and the surrounding area's. A bunch of them were put up as analog machines years ago and have been upgraded to various formats over the years. The one VHF machine (147.240) has been on the air a minimum of 40 years. Had numerous radio linked voted receive sites and had at the time the most advanced controller in existence (the DR-186 PC based controller). That entire system was converted to a quantar repeater running mixed mode with astrotac receivers linked with Cisco routers to an Astro Tac 3000 for voting. Coverage on it is very good. And that machine operates mixed mode analog / P25 depending on the user.

I load my tools in what some would refer to as weird. I got hooked up with the Tough Built tool pouches and sort of went nuts with them. I have a general pouch that if I walk in a building to do basically anything, I snap it to my belt. There is a set of small channel locks, a 14 in 1 a common and fly-lips insulated Klein, a stripper / cutter / linesman plier. A small multimeter, a circuit safety tester, couple sharpies and a 14 in 1 mini screwdriver and a set of linesmans scissors. Then I have my cable dressing pouch. Scissors, roll of velcro tabbed straps, roll of waxxed string, my lacing needles and a 14 in one. Cable terminating pouch is my LMR crimpers, knife, tape, file, wrenches for LDF connectors (cut short) and the swagging tool for LDF4. And yep,, a 14 in 1. I have a couple others, one is a big one that my heavier electrical stuff rides in. Then the big mouth tote and a roll around bag my heavier 20 volt drills and crap live in. and the cool part is it's all modular. The belt clips will mount on a wall so I can hang the pouches on the divider in the van, they also hang on the tote or the bag. And I have a clip on a J-hook and one on a magnet to hang it where ever I need to.

Ha Ha... I am sitting here building my codeplugs for doing this very thing just before I called it a night and got on here for a minute. Only difference, I am running O5 heads on mine, but the W7 is a nice head as well. If they would dual up with the O3 HHCH I would be rocking that setup but the firmware only supports a W3 and I ain't gonna go that route. I ran an XTVA with a W3 for a while in the truck and just don't care for it. It's hard to read in the day due to glare and the backlight sucks at night. Of course now the truck is rocking an 8500 with an O7 so I ain't got many worries. Looks really good. I will try to remember to post photos of the install once it's done.

Gonna get into the weeds here with an explanation. First is antenna separation and attenuation. And an understanding that a duplexer will provide about 90dB of attenuation. Two UHF antenna's that are mounted VERTICALLY apart on the same tower leg, will provide about 20 dB of attenuation. Two UHF antenna's separated by 80 feet horizontally will provide the same 20 dB of attenuation. So if you had a 150 foot tower, and put the receive antenna at the top and the transmit antenna at about 10 feet you MIGHT get 60 dB of attenuation. Still not as good as a duplexer. Now, lets look at the dollars and cents of this. First off you will need some sort of hardline for an install like this. And it's gonna be two runs. Lets say the tower is 30 feet from the building and it's another 20 feet to the radio. So you will need an extra 50 feet of hard line at 4 bucks a foot. Four additional connectors at 25 bucks a piece, two for the ends and two for the additional 90 dollar surge suppressor for the feed line. Then you need two antenna's. A USED DB-408 is about 150. So lets do some math. 50 feet of cable and four 25 dollar connectors comes up to 300 bucks. Now the additional 150 for the antenna, that's 450 bucks plus the surge suppressor and the labor, so 600 bucks for that additional LOW MOUNTED antenna that is gonna talk like crap because it's 10 feet off the ground. To save you HOW MUCH for a duplexer? Hell a new pass notch set is 1300 and used they are around 500 or less. So it's actually CHEAPER to run the duplexer and do it right and have it perform in a manner that would be acceptable. Yeah, gonna go the route of the duplexer every time. Oh, and you say you are gonna cheap out and run RG-8 or 9913 and not hardline. Sure... you are gonna run the RX cable down past the TX antenna in the near field of said antenna and expect the shielding from a BRAIDED CABLE to block 100% of the signal in the near field of a transmit antenna. Sure... have fun with that too.

Really? I have like 5 of those. I have one in each tool bag, and one in each tool pouch I have as well. Hand nothing but good luck with them. Sorry to hear you experience wasn't as good.

First off, solder VS not. If you use good quality caprive pin connectors and install them per the manufacture recommended manner, there is no benefit to soldering. And before you claim ANYTHING on this, remember that ALL splices in hardline up to 6 inch (largest made) are slip fit connections with flange connections for the outer shield. This is feed line that carries as much as 500KW for TV and radio broadcast. So, captive pin connectors, when used correctly are fine. Crimpers. Daniels HX-4 crimp bodies are the $500 option. But those crimper bodies are available used on ebay for significantly less money. Those crimper bodies are typically used for aircraft maintenance and have a wide variety of crimp dies for a multitude of different crimped wire terminations. I have seem a few times where the correct dies were with the bodies on ebay but you typically have to get them separate and put them together. These are the RIGHT way of doing the connectors. And use TM (Times Microwave) branded connectors when using TM LMR-400 cable. The cheap stuff from HRO and other places are just that, cheap. Yes, the connectors are 30ish bucks a piece, but once you have them in place you will never need to worry about them again. But the comments about the lesser crimpers are correct, you can use them for hobby work when you are not crimping 10 connectors a day twice a week. They will work fine. But use the good connectors anyway. The dies are labeled in crimp diameter. If you get the required diameter from teh manufacture paperwork and find a crimper that crimps that size, they will work

Lets see. 1. Motorola Astro Spectra High power 2. Motorola XTL5000 High power 3. Motorola MaraTrac high power (have a New in box model with the siren module in storage) 4. Motorola Mitrek High power (Crystal controlled) 5. Motorola Micor high power (crystal) 6. Motorola MoTrac High power (crystal, tube final) 7. Kenwood 890H 8. Kenwood 830H FORGOT ONE: Syntor X That's just the ones that immediately come to mind. I would do some research and get the correct part numbers for these radios and then head off to Hamvention in May to find one. These are all monoband radios, but most if not all have VHF high power counterparts that would also be available. All these radios are going to be remote mount with a control head separate of the radio body with a cable in between. As mentioned, I have a MaraTrac UHF 100 watt model sitting in storage that has never been out of the box. Should be a 99 channel control head and the module and extension head for the 100 watt siren unit. I also have a couple Astro Spectra's in my collection and actually going to pickup a high power XTL today to install in my personal vehicle. Stay away from the crystal controlled radios. They are also good radios but getting crystals for them would be expensive and they are not programmable, changing or adding frequencies requires new / additional crystals. ANd finding final tubes for MoTrac radios would also be difficult. If you are looking to setup a personal vehicle, I would look at the Astro Spectra's. I ran three in my durango with all the control heads in between the seats in a home build console setup with the radios mounted in the back of the truck. There are several different styles of control heads available for the Astro Spectra family of radios. These would be the W series heads and the System9000 head. So you have options if space is limited. Those also have 20 watt audio outputs so running one in a loud or open top vehicle like a jeep wouldn't be an issue.

Depends on if you are wanting to run multiple repeaters on the dual antenna's or just one. Here's what is required to run dual antenna's. Transmit combiner and receive multicoupler with window filter. You CAN'T effectively put up a repeater with two antenna's and no filtering, unless you are going to put 100 feet of seperation between the transmit and receive antenna's. And of course when you do that, you loose a LOT of transmit distance. Find a good duplexer (pass / notch) and run that. If you are going on broadcast towers, you don't have a choice in this. A notch duplexer will NOT filter the significant RF that is present at a broadcast site. And that RF, even out of band will get in the front end of the receiver and deafen it significantly. So don't bother. And even with a window filter and all that, it's still a problem. Far as not wanting to foot the bill for a repeater. Are you looking for one of us to pony up a repeater and duplexer? Sorry, I don't see that happening. As I said before, if there are a large number of GMRS users in your area, pass the hat to them and see if they are willing to donate to the setup of a GMRS repeater. Come up with something of value to trade for a repeater and duplexer. Now I am NOT the person to have this conversation with. That tower, and that stack of repeaters are all privately owned. That tower represents 200 bucks a month in electric bill, 2100 a year in property taxes and about a grand a year in maintenance. That's just keeping the tower lights on and powering the equipment at the site. This is all being done out of pocket. ANd I am not independently wealthy. I work a 8 to 4:30 job just like many others on here. Gonna toss a couple other pics on here. One is what we got when we got the keys to the building. The second is what's there now (actually an older photo, there is more stuff in the building at this point. And ALL this install, from the electric, setting the racks, installing and cabling the equipment is all done by me.

OK, you work for a two-way shop and can't locate used equipment? Shop refuses to sell it to you? Nothing out there still floating around that was decommed during narrowbanding? No one upgrading to digital formats from analog that you could aquire? This isn't a cheap hobby. And we are all in different positions in life and finance. If you have a number of people running simplex GMRS and a repeater would help them out, pass the hat in your area. Find some broke stuff and repair it and get it on the air. But in all honesty, if you are having those sorts of issues, load up the U-haul and come to Columbus Ohio, I am pretty sure if you have the experience you said you do, I bet I know a place that will hire you. https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=radio+technician&l=Columbus%2C+Ohio&vjk=906f8ef3f7b7b97e&advn=9428139108340606 But we don't have much need for GMRS repeaters here. I sort of have that covered in this area.

No. I know this seems to be a trend lately. I was just sticking my nose in and be difficult.