SteveShannon

This has been discussed multiple times in the past. The rules don't really say that and quoting someone from a blog don't make it so.

But you could set your radio to scan on the 467.xxx frequencies with no receive tone, and then, once you hear someone transmitting to the repeater, scan for tones, provided your radio supports scanning for tones.

Exactly! Authentic doesn’t mean they were the first to make a long whip antenna. It just means that Nagoya actually made them, which certainly could mean they’re better quality than TidRadio or Abree.

Your group should invest in radios on a service that allows encryption.

First, there are many different types of coax cables that people call LMR400. Some have a shield that consists of aluminum foil over copper braid. Some, like the M&P 10mm stuff have copper for both layers. LMR400 is the Kleenex of coax. Does it make a difference during full duplex transmissions? Darned if I know, but I’m certain that this range problem isn’t because of LMR400. I just read an older thread on another forum where a guy said “my company has several repeaters that work just fine with LMR400, but I’m looking at making a portable repeater and I want something more flexible.” Immediately someone went into great lengths telling him not to use LMR400 for repeaters.

Are you sure you’re replying to the right post? The OP already knows the PL (CTCSS) frequency and he wasn’t asking about getting permission.

What radio do you have? Most importantly, channel 20 is not a repeater channel. It doesn’t transmit on 467.675, which must be done to hit the repeater. That’s usually shown as 20RP or something like that which transmits on 467.675 and receives on 462.675. Are you certain that CTCSS number 22 on your radio is tone 141.3? Not all manufacturers assign the same numbers to the same tones. I recommend leaving the receive (down) tone empty while getting the transmitter tone right. That way you’ll hear everything on that frequency.

This is what I wonder too. If he’s getting 20 watts out after the duplexer (assuming the right frequency), the problem sounds like something to do with the cable and antenna.

That’s the real purpose of the Roger beep.

Okay, I don’t want to make this worse. If two of us are trying to help you at once it can get pretty confusing. WRYS709 has a bunch of things for you so I’m going to get out of the way. I try to eliminate one unknown at a time which takes time, so his help will probably be quicker.

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Then perhaps something about the RF transmissions was non-compliant, such as bandwidth, or perhaps the violator said he was using a specific radio.

It’s funny that people think the Nagoya is not a knock-off. Diamond also has similar antennas, using the 771 name. https://www.diamond-ant.co.jp/english/amateur/antenna/ante_3hand/ante_hand2.html I have no idea which company was first.

At what step are you seeing that message? That looks like you haven’t selected the correct com port in the settings for the CPS software and you’re trying to talk to the radio. Show us what your device manager screen looks like for your com ports, please.

Yeah, my BF UV5R came with a Tidradio 771. It actually worked pretty well. I put it on my Alinco DMR radio (70 cm ham, not GMRS) and based on the measurements reported by the repeater my signal strength went from S6 to S8, which seems pretty substantial. Unfortunately I dropped it and the antenna sacrificed itself protecting the radio.

Surely not Notarubicon either.

If they were not certified for GMRS use at that time they could not be considered “grandfathered”. If they don’t operate on the frequencies and at the powers listed in 95E, they’re not GMRS or FRS compatible. If you configure them to comply with part 95 you might be able to get away without anyone ever knowing, but technically you would not be “legal”.

You win!

Beep if you’re randy! Wasn’t that a bumper sticker?

Here’s a newer description of the enforcement process than the 2015 enforcement fines article you linked: https://www.fcc.gov/sites/default/files/public_enforcement_overview.pdf And it is possible that doing nothing, including not responding to an FCC letter, might work, depending on your circumstances. It’s also possible that could result in what the FCC calls “an upward adjustment.” I agree that a person should do their own research. Your original post just came across as bravado and bluster and dismissive of ongoing discussion about the process.

Actually it should say “This post is one person’s opinion. If you take legal advice from some random internet expert you’re on your own.”

Especially if his name is Rick.

Everything in life can be taken to an extreme. Having all eight repeater channels tied up for a single network of repeaters in a small area would be stupid. However, having eight repeaters networked together to provide stateline to stateline coverage across a small sparsely populated state could have its benefits. My use case consists of going out in the country and talking simplex to my real friends, but I'm okay with people using GMRS however they want as long. I have two knobs that control my enjoyment. One changes the channel and the other turns the radio off.

Yeah, mine almost looks like WORM (WROM258). XENU007 would be cool though.