neosmith20
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neosmith20 got a reaction from WRKC406 in Hub/Node Connection and rpt-cmd
I figured it out when I had to reinstall the OS...
Before running number "8. Run the script with the following command: sudo ~/repeaterfinder.sh" from the section "Configure Your Node Manually" on the page How Do I Join The myGMRS Network
I had to change "deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/" to "deb http://legacy.raspbian.org/raspbian" in the file "/etc/apt/sources.list"
I had to change this because it was causing an error while trying to run the script, as the old website link is no longer in existence!
Once I changed it, I then ran the script from number 8, and it downloaded everything correctly. It then rebooted, and I changed my password... I checked the "manage nodes" page, and the node came up correctly. I was able to manage it then, as well as connect my node to a regional node.
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neosmith20 reacted to wayoverthere in My Repeaters Page - Repeater Details Code
So...I still stand by the statement that RIch can best say what that section of the site will and will not accept in that box.
That said, I created a "Test" repeater listing to be able to poke at the settings (marked it offline, etc). Still not sure what kind of code it's using, but I did successfully create a link with the little "chain" icon (4th from the top right, in blue in the screenshot). typed in the text I wanted, highlighted it, hit the link button, and pasted in the url I wanted it to point to.
Seems to have worked:
Hope it's at least a little bit of help.
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neosmith20 got a reaction from wayoverthere in Hub/Node Connection and rpt-cmd
I figured it out when I had to reinstall the OS...
Before running number "8. Run the script with the following command: sudo ~/repeaterfinder.sh" from the section "Configure Your Node Manually" on the page How Do I Join The myGMRS Network
I had to change "deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/" to "deb http://legacy.raspbian.org/raspbian" in the file "/etc/apt/sources.list"
I had to change this because it was causing an error while trying to run the script, as the old website link is no longer in existence!
Once I changed it, I then ran the script from number 8, and it downloaded everything correctly. It then rebooted, and I changed my password... I checked the "manage nodes" page, and the node came up correctly. I was able to manage it then, as well as connect my node to a regional node.
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neosmith20 got a reaction from Sshannon in Hub/Node Connection and rpt-cmd
I figured it out when I had to reinstall the OS...
Before running number "8. Run the script with the following command: sudo ~/repeaterfinder.sh" from the section "Configure Your Node Manually" on the page How Do I Join The myGMRS Network
I had to change "deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/" to "deb http://legacy.raspbian.org/raspbian" in the file "/etc/apt/sources.list"
I had to change this because it was causing an error while trying to run the script, as the old website link is no longer in existence!
Once I changed it, I then ran the script from number 8, and it downloaded everything correctly. It then rebooted, and I changed my password... I checked the "manage nodes" page, and the node came up correctly. I was able to manage it then, as well as connect my node to a regional node.
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neosmith20 reacted to wayoverthere in My Repeaters Page - Repeater Details Code
@rdunajewski is the Rich in question.
And racking my brain in the meantime as to what it might accept.
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neosmith20 got a reaction from wayoverthere in My Repeaters Page - Repeater Details Code
this is the code i was using (html):
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<title>Open a New Page</title>
</head>
<body>
<p>Click the link below to go to Pikes Peak GMRS:</p>
<a href="https://www.pikespeakgmrs.org" target="_blank">Go to Pikes Peak GMRS</a>
</body>
</html>
Markdown Code:
[Go to Pikes Peak GMRS](https://www.pikespeakgmrs.org)
Even tried with an iframe:
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<title>Pikes Peak GMRS</title>
</head>
<body>
<p>Here's the website embedded in an iframe:</p>
<iframe src="https://www.pikespeakgmrs.org" width="100%" height="500"></iframe>
</body>
</html>
Then tried using just the link part (html):
<a href="https://www.pikespeakgmrs.org" target="_blank">Go to Pikes Peak GMRS</a>
Lastly, even tried php:
<?php header("Location: https://www.pikespeakgmrs.org"); exit; ?>
None of those seemed to work and the page would just show what i pasted in here.
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neosmith20 got a reaction from WRUE951 in GMRS Enforcement
And how do you know they were using GMRS freq.s when FRS is literally the same freq... Many businesses just go out and buy a couple of bubble pack radios for their employees and off they go. What proof is there that GMRS was actually being used? Did you test the wattage coming out of their radios? Where they using a repeater freq.? Where they using radios with detachable antennas? If you can't prove they were using something beyond a bubble pack radio, then you have no case and was a complete waste of their time.
"Although they are two separate radio services, the FRS and GMRS co-exist within 462-467MHz frequency range of the UHF band. Both services share the same 22 simplex channels and frequencies. These channel and frequency assignments are standard across the industry. This means that channel 1 on a Midland FRS or GMRS radio is the same as channel 1 on a Motorola Talkabout, or a Cobra MicroTALK, or a DeWALT, Uniden, or Wouxun KG-805F and 805G. Channel 2 is the same, channel 3 is the same, and so on. For this reason, someone with an FRS radio can converse directly with someone who has a GMRS radio and vice-versa."
https://www.buytwowayradios.com/blog/2021/10/the-difference-between-frs-and-gmrs-radios.html
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neosmith20 reacted to OffRoaderX in We need more GMRS Repeaters Deployed
Turn off the VPN and give it a try.
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neosmith20 got a reaction from WRTY790 in GMRS Enforcement
And how do you know they were using GMRS freq.s when FRS is literally the same freq... Many businesses just go out and buy a couple of bubble pack radios for their employees and off they go. What proof is there that GMRS was actually being used? Did you test the wattage coming out of their radios? Where they using a repeater freq.? Where they using radios with detachable antennas? If you can't prove they were using something beyond a bubble pack radio, then you have no case and was a complete waste of their time.
"Although they are two separate radio services, the FRS and GMRS co-exist within 462-467MHz frequency range of the UHF band. Both services share the same 22 simplex channels and frequencies. These channel and frequency assignments are standard across the industry. This means that channel 1 on a Midland FRS or GMRS radio is the same as channel 1 on a Motorola Talkabout, or a Cobra MicroTALK, or a DeWALT, Uniden, or Wouxun KG-805F and 805G. Channel 2 is the same, channel 3 is the same, and so on. For this reason, someone with an FRS radio can converse directly with someone who has a GMRS radio and vice-versa."
https://www.buytwowayradios.com/blog/2021/10/the-difference-between-frs-and-gmrs-radios.html
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neosmith20 reacted to WRKC935 in Roger beep settings
Two pages to discuss roger beep settings????
It's simple, turn that crap off. End of story.
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neosmith20 reacted to OffRoaderX in Roger beep settings
I have looked myself (at the last 10 years of enforcement), thats why I dont trust what you're saying.
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neosmith20 reacted to OffRoaderX in Repeater Access Requests
The repeater owners check for requests for access when they feel like it.. Some do it quickly & often, some never do it.. It is also possible that the repeater is no longer online.
If the repeater has the tones listed publicly its usually ok to start using the repeater and/or ask for permission over the air unless/until the repeater owners asks you to stop.
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neosmith20 got a reaction from generalpain in GMRS Enforcement
And how do you know they were using GMRS freq.s when FRS is literally the same freq... Many businesses just go out and buy a couple of bubble pack radios for their employees and off they go. What proof is there that GMRS was actually being used? Did you test the wattage coming out of their radios? Where they using a repeater freq.? Where they using radios with detachable antennas? If you can't prove they were using something beyond a bubble pack radio, then you have no case and was a complete waste of their time.
"Although they are two separate radio services, the FRS and GMRS co-exist within 462-467MHz frequency range of the UHF band. Both services share the same 22 simplex channels and frequencies. These channel and frequency assignments are standard across the industry. This means that channel 1 on a Midland FRS or GMRS radio is the same as channel 1 on a Motorola Talkabout, or a Cobra MicroTALK, or a DeWALT, Uniden, or Wouxun KG-805F and 805G. Channel 2 is the same, channel 3 is the same, and so on. For this reason, someone with an FRS radio can converse directly with someone who has a GMRS radio and vice-versa."
https://www.buytwowayradios.com/blog/2021/10/the-difference-between-frs-and-gmrs-radios.html
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neosmith20 reacted to KAF6045 in Repeater equipment having trouble RXing from members TXing to it...
Most VNA's do more than antenna analyzers. Though the manual https://nanovna.com/?page_id=64 isn't the most clear it appears to support setting cable velocity factor, and can detect short/open distance. You have to fiddle with stop frequency to adjust for "length".
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neosmith20 reacted to Radioguy7268 in Repeater equipment having trouble RXing from members TXing to it...
I'd also be checking your antenna feedline for continuity. What you described with the ability to transmit, but not receive, could potentially be caused if you have a VERY slight gap between the coax and the connector - effectively creating your own iso-tee. That's why people ring out their connectors when they're done installing them. With your adapters on each end, that possibility becomes a bit more likely.
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neosmith20 reacted to KAF6045 in Repeater equipment having trouble RXing from members TXing to it...
If it was a cable problem, I'd expect problems in both directions. Same for an antenna problem. However, a problem at the cable/antenna connection could result in a dead antenna, and high SWR putting a radiating signal on the OUTSIDE of the coax. (I managed to open squelch on a D-Star repeater located a few miles south of me using an Icom ID52 -- that was still set for SLO [100mW -- less than the GMRS/FRS 500mW channels]. So if you had a radiating coax it may still have put out enough signal to be heard, but not receive.)
My first approach -- start with an antenna analyzer that covers UHF range. And you probably won't like this -- start at the antenna itself, using something like a 1-3 foot coax from analyzer to antenna. Verify antenna SWR/resonance in the 462Mhz end (preferably your actual repeater output frequency; you aren't going to get both 462 and 467MHz to be resonant, and somewhat high SWR on the 467 receive shouldn't be deadly unless by some chance it is really obscene [historical meaning: out of sight ? ]).
If the antenna checks out, and with coax disconnected at both ends [disconnect ground end before you climb the tower, so you can do this while on the tower and have that end disconnected for the antenna test -- use the analyzer to determine open-ended cable length ("distance to fault" or similar check; you will need to know the cable velocity factor to compute electrical length vs physical length).
If cable (fault) length is appropriate for the real cable -- no open or shorted fault in the middle -- reconnect cable to antenna and go back to ground level. Recheck SWR/resonance of the cable&antenna link. You might want to compute how many wavelengths of your target frequency fit the (electrical) length of the coax -- there can be "weird" behavior at certain multiples of quarter or half wave where SWR looks great (or terrible) because of interaction of reflected wave with forward wave. I'd have to dig up my ARRL handbooks to find the exact relationship.
Note: while I refer to SWR, actual Forward and Reflected power levels may be more indicative along with the ratio.
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neosmith20 got a reaction from Sshannon in Repeater equipment having trouble RXing from members TXing to it...
I will have to give that a try and see what i find.
of course, i always re-calibrate it... every time i start it up and before i do anything. just in case.
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neosmith20 reacted to Radioguy7268 in Repeater equipment having trouble RXing from members TXing to it...
It's nearly impossible to troubleshoot a system you've never seen from a thousand miles away, but please explain what you did to "tune the repeater closer to the correct freq." ?? There's not much tuning that I'm aware of with a Bridgecom repeater. Were you trying to bring the repeater closer to frequency center on transmit? Just how far had it drifted??
If the setup worked fine (repeater + duplexer) with one antenna system, and then you changed out to another antenna system - it would certainly seem that your new antenna system is suspect. However, I'm curious why you would have needed to "tune the repeater closer to the correct freq." if your range testing with the old antenna system was producing stellar results.
What connectors are you using on the LMR400 cable? Was that cable new or used? How hard would it be to swap out the cable? What condition are the duplexer jumper cables in?
Heliax is "better" than LMR400 - but for a 35-40 ft run, it should be marginal - especially when new. That Harvest antenna probably has an SO-239 UHF connector, and the DB404 would have had a Type N. Type N is "better" - but again it's not a night & day difference maker. What connections are on your duplexer? Do you have a surge protector or lightning arrestor in the mix?
For all the internet stories about duplexers going bad just sitting there, I haven't really ever seen it in the real world. Unless an elephant stepped on it, Zeus hit it with a lightning bolt, or Mike's Magic Golden screwdriver tried to field tune it, then it just kept on working. What I have seen is cheap cables with tin plated connectors deteriorating within a few years and causing all kinds of headaches that get attributed to a bad duplexer.
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neosmith20 reacted to Sshannon in Repeater equipment having trouble RXing from members TXing to it...
“Sweeping the antenna” means taking a series of SWR readings throughout the desired frequency range. By doing this you can see the SWR for the antenna throughout the range and where the antenna has the lowest SWR. You say you have a NanoVNA so you have the tool for the job. Be sure and calibrate the NanoVNA to that frequency range first, using a the no-load, short, and 50 ohm devices that came with the NanoVNA.
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neosmith20 reacted to Radioguy7268 in Repeater equipment having trouble RXing from members TXing to it...
The most simple way to troubleshoot a repeater is to start with the basics. If you can, follow OffroaderX's suggestion and set up a simplex mobile radio (or temporarily reprogram the repeater as a simplex base - disable the repeat function). Connect the "base" radio directly to the antenna - forget about the duplexer for now. Get a helper to take a radio out to the current 5 mile edge of the system range.
Test the transmit function to a distant mobile. You should get the same range (assuming power level is the same as the repeater). If your range increases - need to look at the duplexer and cabling.
Now test receive function from that distant mobile. You should be able to receive from a similar distance as you could transmit to. If your receive range improves from what you saw with the repeater - you need to take a look at the duplexer and cabling.
I have seen more bad cables than I've seen bad duplexers.
Your story about the system working well with the other previous antenna makes me wonder if you were using the same duplexer and cables for that setup. Have you measured VSWR for the antenna system? Do you have the ability to sweep the antenna? That Harvest antenna is tunable - was it set for GMRS when you ordered it? What frequency was it supposed to be set to?
Don't just guess at what's wrong. Measure & test so that you know what is working and what seems to introduce trouble when you add it to the mix.
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neosmith20 reacted to OffRoaderX in Repeater equipment having trouble RXing from members TXing to it...
I would focus the duplexer first - i've had those inexpensive ones fail on me..
Try removing the duplexer, and if possible put the repeater in base-station/simplex mode and see how well it transmits and receives.
