73blazer

The 935 software isn't really that bad. Basic but ok. The 905 software however is wretched. CHIRP is always welcome I just hope it supports all features of the radio.

Thanks for your response. So example repeater where it happens has tx D586 and rx D586. I set those. Like I said you can talk to another via said repeater no problem. I've tried deleting the rx tone same deal. The radio does have the tail squelch thing i've tried turning that on and off and no change in behavior. It also has setting to change the hz for the tail squelch, well, 2 of the 3 wouxun I have do, and that doesn't seem to change anything. I'm just perplexed. The meter on the rx wouxun goes to max. It's receiving the morse from the repeater. It just doesn't audio it.

I've found that the Wouxun radios mute repeater morse response? Am I missing some menu option somewhere? I have several other brand GMRS radios and they do not do that. You key the repeater and you hear the dot..dot..dot...whatever response (yes I know some repeaters don't do that but many do). From any except Wouxun you can hear the morse response. From Wouxun radios you can see the receive meter go to high so the radio knows it's getting something....and it's light comes on top but you hear.....nothing.. But you can talk perfectly fine using said repeater. I've found this to be the case on 935 905 805 and 1000 mobile. So...Wouxun radios... Even more interesting is they will receive it if...like on a 935 you can have dual receive and if you set the "other" channel to the corresponding normal GMRS channel for instance I use a repeater on 467.625 if you set the other channel to gmrs18 (462.625) it audio's the morse response. But if your just on the "repeater" channel you don't hear said response. But you can talk and hear the other person using same repeater same radio same settings, no problem. Am I crazy or missing some setting?

well thats interesting ill have to start checking the fcc certs for these.. thanks for that! its menus have option for wide or narrow and defaults to wide on the 15-22 channels. of all the gmrs radios its the worst ...sounds bad no ip rating nasty tail crap at EOT.

Al the radios are wideband capable and all tests performed on wideband.

Well, the tests I've conducted have been pretty rigid. The purpose of which was to find a setup that actually works at 1.2-1.4mi in the woods so our whole group can actually talk. The tests have been same spots for each distance point as well as some "random" spots at known distances to simulate walking around. Conducted in three different areas all heavily forested with near zero open areas and only mild elevation differences. One of which was our real hunting area from our actual various spots (and right now is full foliage so I would think better in fall). I've also tested MURS and CB. MURS falls off at 3/4mi no matter what but seems better, more stable on it's edge. CB absolutely sucks, and I had the 51" telescoping antenna on it. 1/2mi at most with CB. Yeah, I had high hopes for CB, but...it was not to be. So I honed in on a few GMRS radios and have been conducting tests. The Nagoya 771g antenna helps them all out ALOT, a good 1/4mi more. My point was at the same distance points with each radio in hand and my wife on the other end, with same radios (i have 2 of every type), so I ran same radio to same radio, same radio to different radio, etc..at the far edge about 1.4mi the KG935G at high power will make it, and at medium power (4.3w) will not make it. The other 4w radios will not make it the 1.4mi. By not make it I mean mabey you get some words and alot of static, but unusable for an actual conversation.

So I can definitely say for our usage, the wattage makes a difference. I always see people saying there's basically no difference in 3 or 4 or 5w. But, there is. It's specific though. We live in very dense woods. And where we hunt, also very dense woods. All my HT's have Nagoya 771g on them, HT to HT, the 4watt radios (1 retivus ra85 5w rated, measures 4.1w and 1 baeofang uv5g rated 5 measures 3.8) don't make it but 3/4mi. the KG-935G (which mine puts out 5.9w measured at full batt, rated @5.5) makes it 1.3-1.4mi. I always seem to be just about 1.1-1.2mi away from the rest of the group and the 4w radios do not make it while the 5.5w radio does. I also bow hunt about 1.4mi away from our house and the 4w radio won't reach back but the 5.5w radio does. I don't think it's the radio either as I can set the KG-935G to medium power (4.5w rate, measured 4.3w) and it won't make it, but high power does. I would agree once your signal is out in the open it probably doesn't matter much. There's one area we go where there is a repeater on a 80' mast and same 4w radio that won't reach through the woods a mile to my buddy also in the woods... can hit that repeater 12mi away from the same dense woods I'm standing in. But most areas we use don't have any repeater nearby. So when there is nothing but trees and brush and dense woods between you and what your trying to talk to......nothing beats a little more juice.