repeaters to get permission

[nickg805]

how do i know when i get permission to use a repeater? i have sent requests numerous times and havent got a response 

[PastorGary]

That can mean that the system that you are inquiring about is no longer in service, changed owners OR the email address of the owner has changed. 

 

The DATA UPDATING in our main listing website is the responsibility of the owner to keep current. Old or out dated information may exist, but MyGMRS takes no responsibility for the lack of accuracy in any listing at the main website.

[nickg805]

ok so how long should i wait to get an anwser? thats just saying if the repeater is still active?

[berkinet]

That can mean that the system that you are inquiring about is no longer in service, changed owners OR the email address of the owner has changed...

Or, that the owner is not interested in adding you as a user and is not nice enough to tell you that. In which case, the wait would be infinite.

[WRAX484]

Hello all, I'm in Las Vegas and have sent requests to most repeater owners around here and haven’t received anything from anyone, so I understand your dilemma. Sometimes it’s better to ask for forgiveness I guess, if you know what I mean. If they don’t want us using their repeater as simple “ no permission granted” is all that is needed.

[Logan5]

I stopped getting request about a month ago, the last two request I received, I was unable to reply through the MyGmrs system and had to send a text to the number listed in the request. There may be an error in the latest SW update. I believe I have already e-mailed Rich about this, but will contact him again later today.

[btrogdon]

I have noticed email requests have stopped as well. Anyone aware if this is still an issue?

[civileng]

This may be a stupid question but how do you know that you radio is triggering a repeater?  Does it give some delayed carrier signal?

[Logan5]

This may be a stupid question but how do you know that you radio is triggering a repeater?  Does it give some delayed carrier signal?

Yes many repeaters have a hang time. a period of a second or two that the carrier is still open after you activate the repeater. There are other ways as well, if you use a scanner or another radio, make sure that the TX and the RX/scanner radio are far enough away to prevent co channel interference. good luck

[Logan5]

I have noticed email requests have stopped as well. Anyone aware if this is still an issue?

I just got an e-mail request the other day and been getting the repeater update for a couple weeks now.

[ULTRA2]

ok so how long should i wait to get an anwser? thats just saying ifo the repeater is still active?

My question is how do you know if the repeater is active? The database says it is active but how can you tell?

[berkinet]

My question is how do you know if the repeater is active? The database says it is active but how can you tell?

 

Short answer, sometimes you can't.

 

Longer answer. It is a little like religion, it takes a good dose of faith.  Well, assuming you have monitored this repeater for very long periods and heard nothing... If you know the access tone(s) you can key the repeater up and listen for the squelch tail. If they don't have a hang timer (no squelch tail), then you need to listen to the repeater output on another radio.  But, if you don't have the access tone info (and don't want to spend a day trying all of the known codes), and don't hear anybody on the repeater, then, it is a little bit like if a tree falls in the woods and nobody hears it, does it make a sound?  Or, maybe like division by zero, it is undefined.  

 

Actually, the best analogy may be Schrödinger's Cat The existence of the repeater is determined only when you access it.

[jordanmills]

Doesmygmrs.comremoveinactiverepeaters?

[jordanmills]

Wellmygmrsseemstoremovespacesfromposts.

[berkinet]

Does mygmrs.com remove inactive repeaters?

See the second post in this thread from PastorGary.

[jordanmills]

See the second post in this thread from PastorGary.

That doesn't really answer the question. 

[berkinet]

That doesn't really answer the question.

 

I don’t know how much clearer he could have been: ...The DATA UPDATING in our main listing website is the responsibility of the owner to keep current. Old or out dated information may exist, but MyGMRS takes no responsibility for the lack of accuracy in any listing at the main website.

 

In any case, determining activity, or inactivity, is not that easy. Some nominally active repeaters may be silent for weeks on end, or down for repairs. There is no way the managers of this site could know, and they are not likely to put a lot of faith in anecdotal reports from operators who are not otherwise privy to the operations of the repeater.

[Hans]

In any case, determining activity, or inactivity, is not that easy. Some nominally active repeaters may be silent for weeks on end, or down for repairs. There is no way the managers of this site could know, and they are not likely to put a lot of faith in anecdotal reports from operators who are not otherwise privy to the operations of the repeater.

 

Spot on. There is no way admin could verify and maintain that database.

 

Isn't one of the functions of the comment feature (powered by Disqus); to give people a chance to pass information along about a repeater, such as 'I haven't been able to wake that Lazarus for 6 months now'? If people comment on seemingly inactive repeaters then it would give others a little more information. Hopefully they use the comment system.