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#1 WRCC719

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Posted 11 September 2018 - 06:08 PM

The reason i asked prior to my relocation i live near a cemetary that uses MURS ch5 from the office to the men on the cemetary grounds is that legal for MURS use?

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Posted 11 September 2018 - 06:53 PM

95.2731   Permissible MURS uses.

The operator of a MURS station may use it for the purposes listed in this section.

 

(a ) MURS stations may be used to transmit voice, data or image signals.

(b ) MURS stations may be used for telecommand and telemetry functions.

 

 

95.2733   Prohibited MURS uses.

MURS stations must not be operated as repeater stations or signal boosters. This prohibition includes store-and-forward packet operation

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2 Watt power limitations and no repeaters of any kind, but that's about it.  Businesses use MURS all over the country.
 


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 11:09 AM

Yes, that is a typical (and legal) use of MURS radio.


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 07:25 PM

Perfectly fine, in fact we use MURS as a back-up and BS channel for when the repeater goes down, [Or for when we want to discuss something without the PD or supervisors hearing] MURS doesn't cover the entire property but we can get a few blocks range, especially when on the beach.


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Posted 08 May 2019 - 11:07 PM

The reason i asked prior to my relocation i live near a cemetary that uses MURS ch5 from the office to the men on the cemetary grounds is that legal for MURS use?

WAL-MART uses 154.600 and 154.570 yes they can .Walmart going to MURS some stores still hold an fcc  bussiness license



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Posted 09 May 2019 - 04:13 PM

IIRC Wal Mart lobbied for certain frequencies to be added to MURS just so they could use a license by rule radio servcie instead of paying for a business band license for each location.

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Posted 10 May 2019 - 11:55 AM

We have Costco, Wallmart, Target, Winco Foods here in Roseville and i do hear traffic on 154.570 and 154.600. I once in a while i hear traffic on 151.625 not sure who uses that frequency but i do hear conversations on there.


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Posted 10 May 2019 - 12:25 PM

151.625 is under Part 90.35 as a business itinerant channel and isn't part of MURS.

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Posted 10 May 2019 - 01:04 PM

Thats what i thought thanks for the confirmation


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Posted 10 May 2019 - 07:54 PM

... once in a while i hear traffic on 151.625 not sure who uses that frequency but i do hear conversations on there.


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151.625 is known as "The RED-Dot Channel" in the part 90 world.  Radios with this frequency are usually noted by a red-colored dot on the back somewhere, or in the battery case.  Every radio company, and their pet dogs, have sold radios on that frequency since the mid 1970s.  Midland, Motorola, Johnson, Ritron, Job-Comm, Uniden, Kenwood, Icom, Yaesu, Pace, GE, hundreds of off-brands.... even Radio Shack sold a set of hand-held radios on 151.625.

 

This is one of the only part 90 frequencies that is grandfather-claused in the law for wide-band operation.  There is just no way to replace the hundreds of thousands of radios already in use on this particular frequency.  A lot of businesses that move place to place use this as their default channel.  I often hear, radio and TV tower climbers, road construction crews, trucking companies, crop harvesting companies, carnivals and circuses and other show production companies...  basically, any business that moves around a lot from place to place that needs quick, legal, licensed, short-range 2-way communications no matter where they are in the USA.

 

It is a fun frequency to keep in your scanner, to see who is in town.


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Posted 08 June 2019 - 02:17 PM

I always figured that whoever sold Wal-Mart/Sams their radios just sold them MURS and pocketed the license money. Haha. 

I've got some Motorola RDM2020/2080D radios that I've used for years and recently picked up 10 Retevis RT-27V radios that I need to get programmed away from Wal-Mart frequencies. Never had a problem with just the Motorolas as I had CTCS on. But when I picked up the RT-27V radios, I had to disable CTCS on the Motorolas since you can't do that by hand on the Retevis. The RT-27V radios won't show on CHIRP on Mac, so I'm kind of screwed until I pick up a budget PC to dedicate to programming. 


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Posted 08 June 2019 - 03:40 PM

... I had to disable CTCS on the Motorolas since you can't do that by hand on the Retevis. The RT-27V radios won't show on CHIRP on Mac, so I'm kind of screwed until I pick up a budget PC to dedicate to programming. 

 

One word, free solution: VirtualBox

 

But, are you sure the problem is due to running CHIRP on MacOS? CHIRP is written in Python and should be virtually identical on any platform it will run on.  However, the RT27 (FRS/UHF) & RT27V (MURS/VHF) are not listed as supported.  Since the Retevis software will certainly run in VirtualBox, you will be covered in any case.


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Posted 09 June 2019 - 10:36 AM

And... there is another solution that probably deserves its own topic. Remote access to a radio through the use of USB port sharing over Internet. The software I am most familiar with is VirtualHere (not related to VirtualBox). This software would let someone connect a radio to their local machine (Linux, Windows or MacOS) and then share it over the net so someone remote, with the proper software/skills, could program the radio.

I have personally used this scheme to program some Motorola radios using the Motorola programming software. We also use this same scheme to access our MTR2000 repeater should we need to make changes. In the case of the repeater, we run VirtualHere on a Raspberry-Pi. Works great.
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