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#21 n4gix

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Posted 30 January 2020 - 01:30 PM

I've bought several dozen programming cables from "bluemax49ers" and had no problems with any of them.

 

More to the point I buy cables that use FTDI instead of Prolific whenever available.


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Posted 30 January 2020 - 01:56 PM

I've bought several dozen programming cables from "bluemax49ers" and had no problems with any of them.

 

More to the point I buy cables that use FTDI instead of Prolific whenever available.

 

Finally!  After umpteen attempts with the ebay cable I finally got it to work.  Hopefully I'll have 1st time success with the Kenwood cable(s).


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Posted 30 January 2020 - 02:18 PM

Yay! Persistent application of cognitive energy pays off finally! :D


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Posted 30 January 2020 - 02:36 PM

Yay! Persistent application of cognitive energy pays off finally! :D

 

I think I'll invoke the blind squirrel idiom.. :huh:


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Posted 30 January 2020 - 09:55 PM

If you look around on the Internet you can find PDF copies of the radio user guide and service manuals. Useful to have.

 

Have done this for all 3 radios.  And have actually read a lot

 

 

Also if you get the FCC ID off the back of the radio you can search the FCC database where you will find the test reports and the FCC grant, Part 90, 95 etc. for example, the radio is certified.

 

Did this as well, before ordering a used radio.

 

https://fccid.io/

 

Will be interesting to see on the cable and software.  Supposedly the ebay seller is the best (recommended here).  Will have to keep playing but it can get frustrating when things do go as advertised.

 

Thank you.

Great. The service manual came in handy for me. I got two identical dead hand held radios off eBay. Swapped parts around and got one functional. Used the service manual with the diagrams to identify the failed parts and their Kenwood part numbers. Now I can order them and get the second radio fixed. You never know what you may need the documentation for at some point.

 

One other thing I do myself is look for the radio programming software. If I can't get it then the radio would be nothing more than a paper weight and not buy it. I wouldn't send it to a shop to have it programmed. I end up modifying the code plugs from time to time and have different ones depending on what I plan to do with the radio at the moment.

 

I hear too much about Motorola radios and how they handle the programming from a friend who is a radio tech for a local city transportation department. Then the licensing costs for the radio programming software from another friend and his Mototurbo digital radio. I have another friend looking at some used Motorola P25 radios on eBay to use simply as a scanner for public safety monitoring. He says its cheaper than some scanners he looked at.

 

I at least have had good luck getting the Kenwood stuff.

 

Wish you luck and hope the project works out well. On occasions I've felt a radio would work better if it bounced off the wall a few times. 8-\



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Posted 30 January 2020 - 10:21 PM

These radios have 90 day warranty and guaranteed to work properly.  Programming was free with the purchase so a no-brainer.  I already knew what I wanted - channels and repeaters, having bought a new Wouxun 805G HT and programmed that.  So it was a matter of sending the vendor the spreadsheet for them to program.

I do intend to get the software & cable for future use on the Kenwoods if needed.  Have links for that.  Ya, from what I gather here, the Kenwood is less painful for programming compared to Motorola, as you say.  Lots of help from fellow myGMRS members choosing the radios I ended up with.  3170 for the Li battery and a bit smaller size than some HT.

 

Both Kenwood HT and mobile will arrive tomorrow.  Have a leg up on the installation into my side-by-side already, got the antenna and NMO with cable so need to route and get the antenna on the kayak rack.  The pickup install will be next (a different thread).

 

I do want to get an SWR/Pwr meter but not break the bank.  It will be for initial setup/test and little more than that.  Could have gotten my hands on a Bird some years ago (decommissioned and sent away).. sure wish I'd done that.  Complete with 460-ish pucks.


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Posted 01 February 2020 - 12:47 AM

You can down load the Kenwood programming software for your radio from the location below:

 

http://www.radioscan...nwood/file8416/

 

The download link is near the top of the page. The file you want is "kpg101d.zip"

 

The zip file should also have the license key you need to enable the software install. I have it running on Win 10 Home. I used this software to load a test code plug in to a used TK-2170 I picked up.

 

The radio uses the Baofeng type programming cables. If you buy one make sure it doesn't have a fake "Prolific" serial to USB chip in it. This site has the info about the cables:

 

http://www.miklor.co...tingStarted.php

 

Sooner or later you are going to want to make changes or load the code plug up into another TK-3170. No point in paying somebody when you can do it yourself.

 

Thanks for that.  Ordered FTDI cables from bluemax49ers for both TK3170 and TK880.  

 

Did I read on the forum that the software for the 3170 is the same as for the TK880?  Not finding that post but will continue searching.

 

Downloaded the software as well.  Is the license key the box that pops up asking for name, company and S/N (is that Kenwood S/N?)?

Forgive my ignorance, but is all I need to do is double click Setup, fill in that form and rock on?  I quit before filling in the form since the radio is out in the shop.

I'm awful good at not getting software type stuff right first try...

 

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Kenwood KPG-49D RSS Programming Software from Hamflies.

Version 4.20 for Windows


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Posted 01 February 2020 - 10:01 PM

For TK-3170 you need KPG-101D.


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Posted 02 February 2020 - 11:20 AM

For TK-3170 you need KPG-101D.

 

Yup, got it.

 

Thanks


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 05:55 PM

For TK-3170 you need KPG-101D.

 

First try with the KPG-101D software and FTDI cable for 3170.  Drivers loaded fine so I brought up the software "Setup"  (RUN) and it gives me a form to fill in.

 

User Name:

Company Name:

Serial Number:

 

Filled it in with my name, my company name and 3170 S/N from under the battery.

 

"Sorry your license ID is incorrect".  ??  Is there default info to pop this form?

 

ANSWER: Found it (the License ID) in the .zip file under "serial" - "Text Document".  Copy/Paste into the form with:

 

Name:  motorola

Company name: motorola

S/N:  101xxxx
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.. and successfully performed my 1st programming function by changing the AUX button from OST to LAMP (I had no backlight).

Now I have to figure out if I want to add more channels (as in 15 - 22 for Simplex - or just try Talk Around on the repeater channels?)

 

P.S.  I'd delete this post due to chagrin but leaving it up for the next guy who might search and find an answer.

 

Thanks.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 08:12 PM

Congrats!


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