OldRadioGuy Posted February 23, 2021 Report Posted February 23, 2021 I have an Arrow portable "take down" beam antenna intended for 440MHx/70cm ham radio.I bought this antenna for my ham radios, before I had GMRS.Mine is the dual band version with a second set of elements for 2M but otherwise identical to the link below. http://www.arrowantennas.com/arrowii/440-7ii.html I finally got around to checking the SWR with my Wouxun 805G.It was very good - like darned near a perfect 1:1.My output power was actually a bit higher than with other antennas I've tested so somehow this antenna seems to "tickle" the 805G just right.Maybe the 805G is not a perfect 50 ohm output but this antenna is a near reciprocal match???? I'm just reporting the data. I did not talk to anyone on it but triggered the repeater 15 miles away.So I know it was transmitting. That repeater is hard to hit on a simple 1/4 wave antenna with 5W. My meter is an MFJ-842 set on the 10W range.I had about 6' of RG-58 coax in the path.Hams use RG-58 awith BNC connectors for short runs all the time on 440Mhz. Vince AdmiralCochrane 1 Quote
0 Lscott Posted February 24, 2021 Report Posted February 24, 2021 I looked at the web site to see if there are any gain figures published, didn't see any for that Yagi. Have you considered a "corner reflector" type antenna? They look like the old style UHF TV antennas, the ones with a "Vee" shaped reflector. I've done some simulations using EZNEC+ software. If you're into modeling, building or just plain curious about antennas this is a good software package to use. Not too expensive. There is a free demo version. https://www.eznec.com/ A few of the UHF corner reflector models I built show a real gain of 11+ db over a dipole if optimized a bit. The bandwidth seemed wider than the 11 Yagi I modeled from M Squared antennas. The horizontal side lobes seems small and the vertical side lobes were reasonably small. Arrow also sells corner reflectors too. http://www.arrowantennas.com/solid/cr4501.html With a corner reflector you don't have to worry about the metal mast buggering up the match or ruining the gain of the antenna since the mast is always behind the reflector. Quote
0 OldRadioGuy Posted February 24, 2021 Author Report Posted February 24, 2021 I would not consider a corner reflector because this is not a base antenna for me.It's a portable "take down" antenna that fits in a small bag. As I remember, the gain of the 7 element Arrow is 13dB which is 20X.So makes a 5W radio look like about 100W. Not bad. Vince Quote
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I have an Arrow portable "take down" beam antenna intended for 440MHx/70cm ham radio.
I bought this antenna for my ham radios, before I had GMRS.
Mine is the dual band version with a second set of elements for 2M but otherwise identical to the link below.
http://www.arrowantennas.com/arrowii/440-7ii.html
I finally got around to checking the SWR with my Wouxun 805G.
It was very good - like darned near a perfect 1:1.
My output power was actually a bit higher than with other antennas I've tested so somehow this antenna seems to "tickle" the 805G just right.
Maybe the 805G is not a perfect 50 ohm output but this antenna is a near reciprocal match???? I'm just reporting the data.
I did not talk to anyone on it but triggered the repeater 15 miles away.
So I know it was transmitting. That repeater is hard to hit on a simple 1/4 wave antenna with 5W.
My meter is an MFJ-842 set on the 10W range.
I had about 6' of RG-58 coax in the path.
Hams use RG-58 awith BNC connectors for short runs all the time on 440Mhz.
Vince
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