Also a Newb (Repeater Woes)

[WSFT900]

Guess I'll start with the TD-H3Gmrs. I have Odmaster and have finally go the hang of it (well sorta)...All my channel frequency channels show the correct settings (1-22) and the TD shows just 23-30 with no 'RPT' before the number. Sites show RPT15-RPT22 so this is just the start of the headache I have seen so many youtube videos l still can't figure out the right way to set them up. Do I use the available RPT'r 'stock' options (using the above channels and the input/output tones that match freq to RPT's # OR save to to a different channel above 30?

TIA as l grab some tylenol

 

[SteveShannon]

43 minutes ago, WSFT900 said:

Guess I'll start with the TD-H3Gmrs. I have Odmaster and have finally go the hang of it (well sorta)...All my channel frequency channels show the correct settings (1-22) and the TD shows just 23-30 with no 'RPT' before the number. Sites show RPT15-RPT22 so this is just the start of the headache I have seen so many youtube videos l still can't figure out the right way to set them up. Do I use the available RPT'r 'stock' options (using the above channels and the input/output tones that match freq to RPT's # OR save to to a different channel above 30?

TIA as l grab some tylenol

 

It’s just the choice some manufacturers make. RPT15 is exactly the same as 23, RPT16 = 24, etc. Personally I prefer using 23-30, instead of RPT15-RPT22, but it’s the same thing  

RPT15 (aka channel 23) receives on the same frequency as channel 15, but transmits 5 MHz higher. 

[Socalgmrs]

Just pick the correct repeater channel for the frequency on the repeater and add the tones.  

[WSFT900]

Thanks for the reply's, once my head clears up (and the cat gets off my lap) l'll give it a shot...

 

[WSFT900]

Forgot to add, do l just us the VFO mode and find the freq that's for the repeater in question, from the HH or just use Ogmaster (which is probably be easier)and where it says Decode(rX) Encode(TX) is this where l put the tone?

[WRUU653]

53 minutes ago, WSFT900 said:

and where it says Decode(rX) Encode(TX) is this where l put the tone?

Correct  

[WSFT900]

8 minutes ago, WRUU653 said:

Correct  

Thank you, I guess l am too far away from a couple of repeaters, am hoping l get approved on 1 that is top of a tall building and only 1/2 mile away. Maybe l will take a drive along the river and see how it goes. Thank you

 

T

[WRUU653]

2 minutes ago, WSFT900 said:

Thank you, I guess l am too far away from a couple of repeaters, am hoping l get approved on 1 that is top of a tall building and only 1/2 mile away. Maybe l will take a drive along the river and see how it goes. Thank you

 

T

You’re welcome, you are on the right track. Also @SteveShannon’s info is always good.

[WSFT900]

13 minutes ago, WRUU653 said:

You’re welcome, you are on the right track. Also @SteveShannon’s info is always good.

Appreciate it 

[SteveShannon]

2 hours ago, WRUU653 said:

You’re welcome, you are on the right track. Also @SteveShannon’s info is always good.

No, not always, but I try to be accurate. Like anybody I’m far from perfect. 

[WRUU653]

20 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:

No, not always, but I try to be accurate. Like anybody I’m far from perfect. 

Eh… still, pretty good.

[WRXB215]

13 hours ago, WSFT900 said:

do l just us the VFO mode and find the freq that's for the repeater in question

No, you need to be in Mem(channel) mode. Most GMRS radios will not let you transmit in VFO mode.

[WRUU653]

1 hour ago, WRXB215 said:

No, you need to be in Mem(channel) mode. Most GMRS radios will not let you transmit in VFO mode.

Good catch, I was focused on the Tx and Rx info that fell below his image and missed that. My bad. 

[WSFT900]

Ahhh me again, I use(d) Odmaster to help with the repeater(s) and am going to post a pic in a second. I was out'n'about earlier and tried to connect with a repeater(s) and nada (no kerchunk sound). I saw a guy on youtube fiddling with a antenna he was installing and he went to the actual repeater channel and broadcast, am I missing something and when I broadcast do I have to set my channel to RPT's channel(s) to talk? This is RPTC25 for reference in pict. I know radios can hear each other as l tested them but just like 25' away.....Ughhhh

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[SteveShannon]

1 hour ago, WSFT900 said:

Ahhh me again, I use(d) Odmaster to help with the repeater(s) and am going to post a pic in a second. I was out'n'about earlier and tried to connect with a repeater(s) and nada (no kerchunk sound). I saw a guy on youtube fiddling with a antenna he was installing and he went to the actual repeater channel and broadcast, am I missing something and when I broadcast do I have to set my channel to RPT's channel(s) to talk? This is RPTC25 for reference in pict. I know radios can hear each other as l tested them but just like 25' away.....Ughhhh

Not all repeaters kerchunk.

Yes, if you want to talk through the repeater, you must be on the correct repeater channel.
Until you fully understand what you’re doing I recommend leaving the RX Tone cleared out. That way you’ll hear everything on that channel. Once you know you can receive the repeater you can always add the tone or code for RX. 

If you want to talk directly to another radio, you and the other radio must be on the same simplex channel, which are 1-22. 

[WRUU653]

5 hours ago, WSFT900 said:

know radios can hear each other as l tested them but just like 25'

If you are hearing between radios and you are on the repeater channel you showed in your post then you are going through the repeater. As @SteveShannon has said not all repeaters kerchunk. 

[WSFT900]

16 minutes ago, WRUU653 said:

If you are hearing between radios and you are on the repeater channel you showed in your post then you are going through the repeater. As @SteveShannon has said not all repeaters kerchunk. 

What I did was put both radios on channel 1 and talked to my son about 25-30' is all. I will try setting both on the same repeater channel and see how that goes, thanks for the help and man this is a learning process for sure....  

[WRUU653]

Okay, I just wanted to make sure how you were testing between radios. The reason is if you are on the repeater channel with both you should only hear between them if they go through the repeater because the transmit is on a 467 and the receive is on 462. 

[WRUU653]

It’s always possible that a repeater could be down.

[WSFT900]

11 hours ago, WRUU653 said:

Okay, I just wanted to make sure how you were testing between radios. The reason is if you are on the repeater channel with both you should only hear between them if they go through the repeater because the transmit is on a 467 and the receive is on 462. 

I am starting to take some of this in. I was drinking my coffee and just for a second I turned on the radio and bam I heard someone talking, I thought it was just random chatter but then l looked it WAS on RPT5 showing 462.6500 <---to make sure this is the RX correct? This is a repeater l have set in the radio so at least I know I am on the right track. Of course my house has aluminum siding which might interfere with signals, maybe a "462 MHz Land Mobile (GMRS) J-Pole Antenna" from a guy who makes antennas in WI....

Thanks again

[WRXB215]

9 minutes ago, WSFT900 said:

l looked it WAS on RPT5 showing 462.6500 <---to make sure this is the RX correct?

Yes, the repeater's input will be 467.650 and it's output will be 462.650. This is why you will also hear it on the simplex channel of the same frequency but it will not hear you if you try to transmit to it from that simplex channel.

[WRUU653]

Yes that’s correct. @WRXB215’s answer was quicker than mine and dead on thus I suspect also showing the importance coffee plays in radio  

[WSFT900]

3 hours ago, WRXB215 said:

Yes, the repeater's input will be 467.650 and it's output will be 462.650. This is why you will also hear it on the simplex channel of the same frequency but it will not hear you if you try to transmit to it from that simplex channel.

Thanks, and just to be sure l am getting this through my noggin, I just went to the RPT channel on my radio it showed 462.650 then when I keyed to transmit it showed 467.650 even though I didn't get a radio response, I will move to a closer location sometime and give it a shot....Thanks again

[WSFT900]

Okay me again as I am in need of help  Now I just watched (yes another) youtube and the guy was talking about RPT's and have a homemade CH chart. I didn't relize the simplex CH's 15-22 have the same RX freq and RPT's 15-22. My question does can 1 radio be set on simplex CH20 and the other set on RPT20 <--and transmit on this 1 should the other radio hear me? OR do both have to be set on the SAME repeater channel 

[SteveShannon]

2 hours ago, WSFT900 said:

Okay me again as I am in need of help  Now I just watched (yes another) youtube and the guy was talking about RPT's and have a homemade CH chart. I didn't relize the simplex CH's 15-22 have the same RX freq and RPT's 15-22. My question does can 1 radio be set on simplex CH20 and the other set on RPT20 <--and transmit on this 1 should the other radio hear me? OR do both have to be set on the SAME repeater channel 

Transmissions on the simplex channel will be heard on both the simplex channel and the repeater channel. 
But a transmission from the radio set to the repeater channel will not be heard directly on the radio set to the simplex channel.