GXT1000R - Need a Confirmation

[WSEN940]

I was setting up my UV-5G Plus radios with a matching set of frequencies for my GXT1000 radio's "extended" channel list, just gives us more options of pre-programmed 'coded' channels to match up with the Midland crowd.

I coded in all of the Midland channels 23-50 and tested them...only to discover that channel 50 is off channel. I tested all the channels between the UV-5G and the GXT and it did not work....so I set the UV to listen mode and lo and behold, the GXT is transmitting on 462.58625! That's not right  it's 0.0125 below the GMRS Channel 2....ooops.

Anyone else with these radio's, and the ability to check, want to confirm that theirs does it too?

I won't bother with hassling Midland about it....I mean, I've never used channel 50, and am not likely too...but wanted to see if this was common. Kind of an odd one to let slip through!

[WSEN940]

I will add....that it's close enough to the next channel that it actually works.....but it's also not what's published in the manual. Which is why I had issues to start with!

[OffRoaderX]

I'm just here waiting for our resident rheet-hard to leave his predictable comment that he would never buy a Midland radio and everyone he knows that has bought a Midland threw them directly into the trash..Being absolutely no help at all nor answering the question in any way.

[WSEN940]

4 minutes ago, OffRoaderX said:

I'm just here waiting for our resident rheet-hard to leave his predictable comment that he would never buy a Midland radio and everyone he knows that has bought a Midland threw them directly into the trash..

I'm sure he'll be along shortly.

I'll be keeping mine, they come in pretty handy when we get visitors and go do some 'vigorous outdoor exercise'!

[WSHH887]

Ahh, I continue to learn.  So this explains why my GXT1000 have fifty channels when only 22 gmrs channels exist.  No once I get al my parts and install the DB-20 in my truck I'll see what I can do about accessing those other 28 channels in the GXT's

[TDM827]

So my Midland GTX's channel 50 transmits on 462.58750, channel 2 of the standard GMRS channels.

It can be heard on my Radioddity radio on channel 2. However when my GTX is set to channel 50 it will not pick up transmissions from the Radioddity on .58750.

And, both GTX's can hear each other on channel 50. Which I believe is a function of what Midland calls a privacy channel with tones already entered. I believe it "filters," and doesn't allow you to hear transmissions from other radios. My understanding is this isn't really privacy at all, but I could  be wrong. 

My manual does not specify what frequency channels 23-50 operate on, it's just left blank.

At any rate, my GTX's on channel 50 are using the channel 2 GMRS frequency. Looks like yours slipped through the QA.

[WSEN940]

2 minutes ago, TDM827 said:

So my Midland GTX's channel 50 transmits on 462.58750, channel 2 of the standard GMRS channels.

It can be heard on my Radioddity radio on channel 2. However when my GTX is set to channel 50 it will not pick up transmissions from the Radioddity on .58750.

And, both GTX's can hear each other on channel 50. Which I believe is a function of what Midland calls a privacy channel with tones already entered. I believe it "filters," and doesn't allow you to hear transmissions from other radios. My understanding is this isn't really privacy at all, but I could  be wrong. 

My manual does not specify what frequency channels 23-50 operate on, it's just left blank.

At any rate, my GTX's on channel 50 are using the channel 2 GMRS frequency. Looks like yours slipped through the QA.

Thanks TDM827. Appreciate the response.

What really got me going was that all of the channels except 50 confirm to this list I got from an online PDF about the channels, below. Note that 50 is listed as having a DTC code and is 462.7250, which is different from your radio as well. With mine, it's only 0.0125 off, so still works....but yeah.

Interestingly though, I bought a two pack...and they both exhibit the same issue...so whoever was coding them that day was having a few issues I suspect.

[TDM827]

My GTXs are pretty long in the tooth, so over the years Midland may have changed they way are doing things with particular radios. I never use them on channel 23-50 so I never really had the desire to check what those channels were actually doing. 

[WSHH887]

WSEN940, I just checked my midland instructions and the chart shows the midland channel and the frequency.  It doesn't show the gmrs channel.  So are the gmrs 15 to 22 shown on your chart repeater channels?  I know you can change the ctss on the radios.  all of my channels have the ctss off from the factory.  More learning and fun in store.  If I'm wrong I'm sure the HERD's will straighten me out.

Thanks

[WSEN940]

2 hours ago, WSHH887 said:

WSEN940, I just checked my midland instructions and the chart shows the midland channel and the frequency.  It doesn't show the gmrs channel.  So are the gmrs 15 to 22 shown on your chart repeater channels?  I know you can change the ctss on the radios.  all of my channels have the ctss off from the factory.  More learning and fun in store.  If I'm wrong I'm sure the HERD's will straighten me out.

Thanks

The simple answer, assuming you don’t care about repeaters, is no. Channels 15-22 are just more GMRS channels to use. Which, if your using a blister pack GXT like mine, is exactly how I view them.

However, a big caveat! If you do care about repeaters, have more capable radios and want to chat over a wider area see below.
 

Each of the channels 15-22 double as normal GMRS channels AND are your LISTENING frequencies for the 8 allocated repeater ‘channels’.

Note that your TRANSMIT frequencies for the repeaters are each of the channels 15-22 with an added 5Mhz offset. 
 

I might draw a picture tomorrow.

[Jaay]

6 hours ago, WSEN940 said:

I was setting up my UV-5G Plus radios with a matching set of frequencies for my GXT1000 radio's "extended" channel list, just gives us more options of pre-programmed 'coded' channels to match up with the Midland crowd.

I coded in all of the Midland channels 23-50 and tested them...only to discover that channel 50 is off channel. I tested all the channels between the UV-5G and the GXT and it did not work....so I set the UV to listen mode and lo and behold, the GXT is transmitting on 462.58625! That's not right  it's 0.0125 below the GMRS Channel 2....ooops.

Anyone else with these radio's, and the ability to check, want to confirm that theirs does it too?

I won't bother with hassling Midland about it....I mean, I've never used channel 50, and am not likely too...but wanted to see if this was common. Kind of an odd one to let slip through!

I Wonder if Midland might have been thinking about the possibility that it might be used for PMR , such as in  the UK ? Granted, PMR is not used in the states, but that explains that frequency step.

[WSHH887]

WSEN940. Thanks for the info. It's starting to make more sense. The instructions I received were sparse to put it mildly. 
 

I put a spreadsheet together that shows the GMRS channel versus the midland channel. I'm going to incorporate the chart info you provided. It helps me to learn when I can arrange things in a way that makes sense to me. 
 

Again, thanks. 

[WSEN940]

6 hours ago, Jaay said:

I Wonder if Midland might have been thinking about the possibility that it might be used for PMR , such as in  the UK ? Granted, PMR is not used in the states, but that explains that frequency step.

Mmm! Good point. The PMR frequencies certainly have that lower digit numbering, and it’s possible channel 50 got mixed up with PMR channel 7 on my radio. Interesting !

[Socalgmrs]

27 minutes ago, OffRoaderX said:

I'm just here waiting for our resident rheet-hard to leave his predictable comment that he would never buy a Midland radio and everyone he knows that has bought a Midland threw them directly into the trash..

I’m here  I’m here queen dude cross dresser guy gal.  Sounds like you’re crushing on me.   I don’t go that way.  
 

and yes this is another perfect example why the midland radios are trash. I mean what did they cost? And the uv5r out does them?   When will people learn.  
“well I paid to much for them so I’ll just accept they dont work right?” 
If it’s off frequency then it’s not a gmrs radio right?  So why am I, what ever you said, when the facts are in my favor once again.  I mean I dont make a living sitting in my basement petting radios but I’m pretty sure I can see all the bad reports of the over priced radios that don’t work out of the box.