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Yeah: it is from the format you chose to use for your original post. I suspected it was inadvertent! its a true PITA! I avoid most of the threads that use this style, but I am committed to following up on DB20-G support.

Oh interesting, I've been using the forum for awhile and never realized this. Maybe I should have posted this thread somewhere else. My apologies.

Sort by vote is default for Technical Discussion section. And it resets to that every time you open the topic.

Vote on each response? Please explain. I'm not sure I follow. I didn't think I put a voting poll above the thread? I saw the up down carrot on the left of each post. If that is something I added to this thread it was totally by accident.

Got it. Thanks for that clarification of "quirky". Admittedly, I have not used many of the CTRL key sequence shortcuts so that may be why I've not experienced the same issues.

OK, but it doesn't work for me! There's not much to see on a screen capture - the lines are blank except for the channel number higlighted in red. I looked at Dan's requirements for submitting an issue and I don't agree and will not be doing that.

I gave you an upvote for that. I have done more testing but I get the impression that no one here would care. And I don't see a pattern.

It would also help to know which dated version of ChirpNext he is using. He was not very cooperative when I asked him for more specifics about his situation...

Working just fine for me (see attached). Care to share a screen capture of the error? You can also submit a bug report using the Help menu.

Technically speaking some radios' CPS software is still required to be able to change certain non-Channel oriented settings that are not covered in Chirp and hence in those situations, I prefer the OEM CPS software for sure! PS: Why did you select this clunky "let's vote on each response" style of dialogue for this issue?!? I find it distracting, annoying and downright unhelpful for reading a commentary on these issues!

I have been using Windows 11, 10 and even XP in Parallels for years on my collection of Macs to be able to program my collection of wireless radios that are not Chirp compatible. At this point, it is about the only reason left that I continue to have to use Windows at all!

if i remember, that was yellow water too

By quirky I meant how it works, such as keys to press (CTRL-BKSP instead of DEL), and that it tries to anticipate what to put in some columns based on what you enter in others, and that it doesn't show RX DCS when tones are same, and so forth.

Interesting to hear, as I've had no issues with it on Windows 10 or 11. Using it to program 4 different radios. Perhaps I've just been lucky so far...

Somewhere on Youtube there is a video of some weird guy submerging a UV-5R in the toilet, freezing it and running it over with his very-manly Jeep... The screen cracked when the extremely-manly Jeep ran it over, but the radio still worked just fine.

I see/hear a lot of folks taking great joy in knocking the Baufang brand and Cheap Chinese Radios in general, but the proof is in the pudding, and quite often these cheap little radios can surprise us!

I few days ago, I placed a UV-5r on top of a 4x4 fence post while I was working on the pool and forgot about it. That night, we had a legit severe thunderstorm -- even got a tornado about 3 miles away. Two days later, I found it still lying on the post. I picked it up, carried it in, gave it 2 days to dry out, and it works just like it did before it got wet. Obviously, you can't count on that, and I wouldn't expose a UV-5r to rain intentionally, but still, I was pretty impressed.

Even the Baufang's are pretty tough. Couple years ago when installing solar panels on my RV roof one of my UV5R jogged loose from my pocket clip and took a 12' fall to the cement.. I just said 'oh $hit" let it sit there on the cement while I continued with my work. The radio was blaring away sitting there on the ground. When i got down on the ground i checked her for damage, nothing but a slight indentation on one corner of the radio bear the antenna. Today, its one of my favorte radios, only becuse its been battle tested.

That's because I mis-read where exactly the issue was, sorry. Yeah, it definitely sounds like Chirp then, if you were able to program the same split in using the OE software. I don't have split tones on any of my gear stuff, fwiw, and it seems to work fine. EDIT: playing around with this, I'm not able to replicate the issue. I'm running it on Linux at the moment, so MAYBE that has something to do with it, but I'm able to get both a simplex and a repeater channel with split DCS tones put into Chirp without it complaining.

I haven't used the DB20 OEM software, but with most OEM software, it's difficult or impossible to cut/paste the data of 100+ channels from CHIRP into the OEM programmer. I have several different brands of radios that I like to have programmed with the same channels, so that matters to me. However, the OEM software of some radios adds bells and whistles that the CHIRP software doesn't include, so I program the channels in CHIRP, "read" the radio into the OEM software, make my tweaks, and upload the result to the radio. I don't know why the OEM programmers can't just make their spreadsheet easy to cut/paste into.

True, but it's not about the cost/value of the radios. It's about being sure they don't get damaged and will work when you need them.

The ole MXT400 has the ability to search and recover the PL Tones as well. I wasn't mentioned in the OP Manual but I found out by testing the procedure on my unit and it works.

This it true and it happened in 1978-79. I had a license and then it wasn't required anymore.

This it true and it happened in 1978-79. I had a license and then it wasn't required anymore.