Gee, come to Western Pennsylvania. In many places you will get a mile or less. Valley to the other side of the hill doesn't work too well, neither does parking lot through buildings and trees. Of course it's about antenna height. I would need an 80 foot or taller tower to get more than two miles. When I am on a high hilltop, about three miles away, I can talk to my wife in the house using a mobile to a handheld. I can barely hit a repeater about 7 miles away from my house using a handheld, but not well enough to talk. They have a hight tower on a hill though. I can walk with a handheld to a cemetery near my house, and lose the ability to talk to my wife on another handheld about a half mile away. I'm in a valley, it's all about terrain and antenna height, coupled with trees and buildings, in other words, what everyone has been saying.