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Utilizing GMRS vs Ham repeaters for a newbie!
WRTC928 replied to WSJF256's topic in General Discussion
Oh, yeah, it's an HT. Well, probably nothing, then. But even if nothing happens, you're still an a-hole if you do it. Some people don't care, some are even proud of it, so options are limited. -
Utilizing GMRS vs Ham repeaters for a newbie!
WRKC935 replied to WSJF256's topic in General Discussion
Here we go with the 'I need to mod my radio so I can talk to the Po Po, just in case." This has been asked and answered many times. That rule means that you as a Novice ham operator can get on the Extra class frequencies if you hear someone there and ask for assistance in the event of an emergency. Hammies think it means they need to MARS mod every radio they have so they can talk to public safety dispatchers. And that's not it. YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO HAVE A RADIO WITH PUBLIC SAFETY CHANNELS IN IT. So regardless of any means, you aren't suppose to posses those means to begin with. Ham radios are NOT Part 90 and are NOT to be modified except for MARS operation. Again, I am agreeing with Randy here. And still can't believe it. What is Joe hammie gonna do when he tracks down that evil deplorable wanna be that's operating on their beloved local hammie repeater? Are they gonna march up to their door and beat on it with their ARES badge and bandoleer of radios so they look like a dork version of Poncho Via? Are they gonna wear their ARES yellow vest and puff out their chest and with all that fake authority tell them to stop doing it? Or are they gonna really take it too far. Pull the guy out of his house and beat the hell out of him on his front lawn? Then find out it was his neighbor doing it as he's sitting in jail for felonious assault? Maybe he will send him an real official looking letter with the ARRL logo and even his local club logo demanding they cease and desist. Cause the FCC ain't gonna do much unless it's pervasive and they get LOTS of complaints -
Utilizing GMRS vs Ham repeaters for a newbie!
OffRoaderX replied to WSJF256's topic in General Discussion
I dont think they can do anything to the handheld radio that OP has. -
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73blazer replied to WSJF256's topic in General Discussion
I assume "nearest" means "nearest to you?" ... If so, who sold you this radio programmed to the 50 nearest to you HAM repeaters, praytell? Did you ask for it to come that way? -
Utilizing GMRS vs Ham repeaters for a newbie!
OffRoaderX replied to WSJF256's topic in General Discussion
Here is what will happen if you break the FCC rules and use a H.A.M.s Radios repeater without a license to talk with your friends. The helpful/socially adjusted licensed operators will likely inform you that you're breaking the rules and politely ask you to stop If you continue, "some people" will become very sad and complain very loudly and make baseless threats If you continue to continue, the local H.A.M. posse could initiate a fox-hunt - either the old fashioned way or by use of something like a KrakenRF which makes it very fast and easy to locate a transmitter Assuming you continue long enough for them to find you, now they know where you were transmitting from They could knock on your door - but this would be very ill-advised for them. At a minimum they would be trespassing if you tell them to STFU and leave as they have zero legal authority to do anything. At worst you could come outside and bitch-slap their fat-asses, call them names, make fun of their clothes, and make them cry. They could pull out the BIG GUNS and file a complaint with the FCC. But based on the FCC's number of enforcements over the last 15 years, there is a 99.9999998% statistical certainty that the FCC will do NOTHING TL;dr: NOTHING OF CONSEQUENCE WILL HAPPEN. -
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WRTC928 replied to WSJF256's topic in General Discussion
Usually nothing, but not always. It's possible to do some really nasty things to your radio without ever stepping foot on your property. More likely, though, they'd change the input tone or require a PTT ID or something of the sort. -
The AR-5RM is a very nice radio with a lot of capabilities for the price. It was my favorite radio for a long time. However, I recently bought a UV-5RH Pro GPS which does everything the 5RM does with some added features. The one I like best is the ability to arrange my channels into banks and scan only one bank at a time. It's only slightly more expensive than the 5RM on Amazon. If you don't care about the banks or GPS, though, you may as well buy the 5RM and save the $6. You really can't go wrong with either.
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Utilizing GMRS vs Ham repeaters for a newbie!
OffRoaderX replied to WSJF256's topic in General Discussion
"Some people" can be exhausting sometimes.. The funny thing is that whenever I complain about "some people" doing this krap, "some people" claim that nobody ever does this. -
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amaff replied to WSJF256's topic in General Discussion
Really? Under *ANY* condition? Because I can think of a couple carve outs in the rules... The scare-mongering and disinformation is getting a bit silly. -
If it's some sort of digital interference, maybe the opposite would be true. Maybe it can slip through a digital code but not a subaudible tone. I'll try setting a CTCSS receive code on channel 15 on a radio and see if that blocks it.
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I'll try it, but it's happened on three different radios. It seems unlikely they'd all be suffering from inadequate squelch. Still, even if it doesn't stop it, it's a piece of information that may help figure out what it is.
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Utilizing GMRS vs Ham repeaters for a newbie!
OffRoaderX replied to WSJF256's topic in General Discussion
Oh my, that sounds serious! Can you tell us what happens after they fox-hunt someone and locate them? Because if you dont, I will. -
Interesting that there is, apparently, no limitation on using the HT in foreign ports. Then again, perhaps they have done their homework and know there would be no problems in ports they visit. You have to go to the bridge to get the answer. I once asked a non-officer crew member what frequency was being used for port operations at our next stop. He responded, "We don't use frequencies, we use channels".
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Utilizing GMRS vs Ham repeaters for a newbie!
Lscott replied to WSJF256's topic in General Discussion
If you and all of your buddies don't have Amateur licenses then NO you can't use the Ham repeaters under any condition. If you and all of your buddies don't have a GMRS license, or operating under the license of a qualifying family member, then NO you can't use any GMRS repeaters either. Messing around on the Ham repeaters will likely get you nailed fairly quickly. Why? Because Hams have a sport they call "Fox Hunting." Some are VERY VERY good at it and have some expensive equipment specifically for direction finding use. It's a popular sport. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmitter_hunting https://www.arrl.org/direction-finding The guys with the Doppler direction finders can get a directional fix in seconds with a decent signal. It's very similar to the old "LoJack" system used by police. https://radiodirectionfinding.wordpress.com/wat-is-een-amplitude-rdf/ -
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The AR-5RM is, near as I can tell, an unlocked UV-5G Plus (or, really, the other way around, but you get it). A little bigger / more expensive than the UV-5R / 5G, but has some neat features over those (that 1 touch frequency / tone scan is nice, USB-C charger port on the battery, etc)
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i ordered one last night off Baofeng.com Also ordered the new DM32.
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FYI - one of my friends just purchased a UV5R off the Baofeng web site and out of the box it was programable to 520.. And he got the radio in 5 days delivered to my town https://www.baofengradio.com/collections/online-store/products/uv-5r. I ordered a UV-28Plus from them last night, they show delivery for Monday.
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Utilizing GMRS vs Ham repeaters for a newbie!
OffRoaderX replied to WSJF256's topic in General Discussion
The short answer is YES - you could, and there is nothing stopping you. Any H.A.M.s listening might become very sad and it would be breaking the FCC rules (not laws, but RULES). but beyond that, nothing would happen based on the FCC's current and past 15 years of enforcement policies. -
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OffRoaderX replied to WSJF256's topic in General Discussion
Oh my, that sounds serious! What will happen if he does it anyway? -
try playing around with your squelch sensitivity setting.
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amaff replied to WSJF256's topic in General Discussion
There's a pretty big difference between "cannot" and "should not," period. -
i've noticed, when i have the repeater set with a PL, that i can open my repeater sometimes with a HT programed with no PL tones when in very close proximity to the repeater . . And it doesn't always happen.. I have also listened to other repeaters with PL's where someone talking on it claim they are operating with no PL's. So yea, good point but i don't know??? Possibly the sensitivity of his squelch?
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WRUE951 reacted to an answer to a question: Bursts of noise on channel 15
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Utilizing GMRS vs Ham repeaters for a newbie!
UncleYoda replied to WSJF256's topic in General Discussion
That still doesn't follow the rules unless it is a GMRS approved radio, which should have the repeater channels already there. His given model number doesn't match any that I know of. -
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