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This has zero to do with racism. Hello. Do wrong get caught suffer the consequences. That’s it. It’s about doing the right thing and being half accountable. Geesh. Everything has to turn into something. If some one hates ccr radios is he/she racist? Sick of everything being turned into something it’s not.

I agree completely.

It's all about money and agenda. If it would play out the way you describe it's not an issue, but, as we've seen as of late, it's not that simple and straightforward. And yes, there has been a lot of racism towards the Chinese people and this can be construed as one of them. I am not saying it is, but if one looks hard enough they can perceive it as such.

And what else is the internet for?

you are funny,, inventing a problem that doesn't exist.

Kind of missing the point. Which is, I want to use GMRS. You have the equipment I "want to use." And I am willing to pay for access to it. So it's a win win if it solves the problem. And if I comfortable relying on older forms if communication I just won't pay to play. No Harm, no foul. Before GMRS I used lot of forms of communication. None of which I really want use as a reliable "secondary" form of communications. I mean, my primary and most reliable form of communication since the mid 2000s was and remains cell phone. Which as of today I still can find plenty of dead spots and experience occasional downtime. Especially in rural areas. Which coincidentally may not have many repeaters. So cell really really doesn't address people who really want to have GMRS radio as a secondary / back up comm. Otherwise, back in the day we used: FRS (Not even a close second to GMRS when it comes to range),CB (Still limited range). Land Line Phone (Fine if you are home. I find it a good form of communication if the person you are calling also has land line or has working cell service). I mean, I could really go far back to the old Navy day's, and relearn basic semaphore / flag signaling, LOL

I’m not certain why the FCC would allow any outside labs to certify equipment without some kind of validation of the lab’s ability and trustworthiness. And if equipment that has been “certified” by that lab fails, both the equipment manufacturer and the certification lab should have to answer why. That has nothing to do with racism.

Long over due!! The problem here is it can be assumed that the whole effort is nothing more than discrimination and racism against the wonderful Chinese people. We will have to see how this turns out as it works its way through the courts.

When it rusts it's a problem. Laird, Larsen and other reputable companies use stainless steel. Of course I resolved the problem for 10 cents by going to Ace and buying two stainless steel ones. Not cool for a company to put the burden on the consumer to fix substandard scrap. Don't get me wrong, I support your effort to buy scap just as long as it's makes you happy. That's what it's all about, be happy.

Simple, the $250 billion dollar one is not coming out of your pocket and is being paid for on my dime. Don't complain when you get a free ride.

appositely no problems with the set screws,, Zero, nada... Have you had problems with set screws. please explain..

Now why would I want to use the $250 Billion dollar system when I can use the $500 system.....

Yes there are many different antenna mounting options available. I would personally go with the type of mount @SteveShannon mentioned before going with a standard NMO mount on a Corvette. But that's just me. A Corvette is out of my humble price range and I would never go drilling into such a vehicle. And while not 100% necessary, One will still want to find a way to mount a sheet of metal under the antenna mount for better performance. And that would mean removing the headliner if putting the antenna on top of the car. Again, I personally wouldn't want to take the chance of messing the headliner up on an expensive sports car. Like I said, it's all perspective. I'm on a fixed income and can't even afford something like a Corvette or even a big fancy SUV or some of the bigger trucks and Jeeps.

Simple, use other forms of communication as GMRS isn't the only form of it. What did you do before you heard of GMRS?

On Long Island they have the BTG repeater system that sucks up at least 3 of the channels and covers the entire area. Not sure if they have more. So it's hard to escape them.

A glass mount doesn’t sacrifice much either, but there are nice looking kits that replace the factory shark fin with a gps antenna and NMO mount which do not require additional drilling.

Man, she must have iron hands.

Not sure how common this is, because lots of us are fortunate enough to have easy access to public and high quality repeaters. But what if you are in area with no public / open repeaters which work for you? And the repeater owner just happens to own the only repeater in the area you can reach? And without it you have no repeater to access. And your comm plan includes the use of a repeater. Meaning you have no other options than to pay to play, or build your own high quality repeater. Not looking for specific examples of this scenario. Just wanted to let any members in this situation know paying might indeed be your only option. And if paying is their only option, they really are not breaking any boundaries of human stupidity if paying is the only way to meet their needs. They are simply meeting market supply and demand expectations. Not apples to apples, but kind like the person living in a very rural area is not stupid for paying a lot for satellite internet if they want it.

As mentioned above, I hoard solder with lead as well...often found at garage sales. Coming back to the thread after a few days, dropping this meme picture.... I must admit though, I have burned myself and things around me over the years with a hot soldering iron. I have a co-worker from the oil industry that was a military veteran (like me) that still gives me a "demerit" for the burn mark in a plastic cart, where I let the soldering iron slip. That permanent melt mark was while soldering Motorola PR1500 handhelds that had broken antenna connectors ~ 2008 or so.

I have been pretty good at leaving a paper trail (or Internet trail), so the correct people know what I am up to......it does "out" the boot lickers though, often. If you just pay out the rope far enough, most people will not only pull the rope, but hang themselves with it. The ones that don't, I assist as much as possible......keep good people around you, and let the rest fall by the wayside.

And don't forget to sniff the fumes from arcing mercury. Oh, the good old days.

Fiberglass repair and painting is extremely easy and invisible with little effort.

I stand corrected for calling them junk when the proper term is scrap. If a manufacturer can't use stainless steel set screws to hold the whip in, they are substandard scrap.

Why, for Christ's sake would anyone be stupid enough to use a pay for use repeater? I have to say it, it breaks every terrestrial and celestial boundary of human stupidity to do so. If you operate a repeater professionally and it has great features the members will voluntarily donate to it. Too many choices out there than paying some clown for nothing.

Exactly, If I were a repeater owner using "creative accounting" to avoid showing a profit, I would be much more worried about the IRS getting involved. If those folks think you aren't declaring income they can get pretty intense. In other words, Audit TIme.