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Well There You Go........ An Opinion By "Some People" About An Opinion Where Their Opinion Doesn't Actually Matter - Except To "Some People." Now I Understand.........

Thanks so much. I should be hear by Friday. Just need to get some one on my tower now. Thanks for your help.

Bickering implies that a counter position is taken because I care about the other persons opinion and how it reflects on me and my initial position.... which definitely is not the case. LoL /wordsalad

Fair enough. I have read the part 95 GMRS regs over and over and I don't see it. Maybe someone else can clarify.

I *think* there is an FCC rule buried somewhere about not using repeaters without permission? But I will yield to anyone that knows/cares more about it than I do.

If no rules or laws have been broken, what would be the basis of the complaint? A serious question.

They can complain to the FCC who, based on their record of enforcement over the last 15 years, statistically speaking, will do nothing.

Sure. But as a licensed GMRS user, I can transmit on any public GMRS frequency, using any public tone, without breaking any rules or laws. Legally, what can you do about it?

Correction: Based on the FCCs "enforcement" record over the last 15 years for H.A.M.s radios, GMRS, and CB radio, they apparently do NOT like to enforce their rules.

Yes, anyone licensed can transmit on any GMRS channel. BUT, you can not use MY radio without MY permission. That repeater is MY radio!

I'd suggest leaving the factory channels as they are. It's pretty much plug and play out of the box. Just change the tone required (in your case 159.8) for what channel (frequency) you want to use. Then go to "edit" on top of the screen and "option features" and change the default channel if you are using something other than .550 (channel 1) if you have a power outage but don't know if this step is actually required. That should be about all you need to get up and running.

He is "that guy" and falls into the category of "some people". It must be nice to have money to just throw away like that.

Yup, I stand corrected. FCC likes to enforce "rule." Or at least they say they do. LOL

CORRECTION: Not "illegal", but a violation of FCC rules..

OffRoaderX is correct and Like others said, charging for repeater access or a club fee is not illegal. Making it a commercial venture and profiting from it is illegal. If a person properly sets up a non-profits and "plows" back any potential profit and keeps the rest for maintenance, administration, upkeep, more repeaters etc... its not hard to do. As mentioned, be a pillar of the GRMS community, spend the thousands of dollars to set up a high quality public use repeater, hundreds to thousands a month on tower fees, set up good back up power, and put up with all the BS that goes with repeater ownership. Do you think you your thoughts on charging for access to a repeater might change a bit? Perhaps.

I know a guy here on this forum that regularly/ALWAYS gets 200+ miles on all of his radios.. He apparently does this by purchasing every radio ever made and if it does not get 200+ miles, he just throws it directly into the trash.. All of his "friends" also do the same thing, so this method obviously works.

Tropospheric ducting is more common in spring and fall when there is bigger change in temperatures between sunrise and a few hours afterwards. I live in Central Missouri and can talk to people in Springfield Illinois on GMRS when there are good openings. The distance is between 115-120 miles. We also occasionally will hear out of state repeaters using the same frequencies and tones come across our repeaters when conditions are just right. This happens on our 2m, 70cm, and GMRS repeaters.

I bought another cable that is arriving today. We will see......

Thanks

I was on GMRS. I also heard distant stations (along with local) again this morning. I let the HT scan the gmrs channels it came with. Thanks all for helping me make sense of this.

GMRS repeaters are going to have the same coverage area and range as 70cm repeaters when antenna height and locations are equal. We get 30-35 mile radius of coverage with our GMRS repeater antennas at 400 feet and 35-40 mile radius of coverage with our 70cm antennas at 900 feet. Both are on the same tower. And both 70cm and GMRS has the same dead spots when one is mobile.

No, the fact that it already shows the proper TX and RX frequencies indicates that you don’t need to do anything else with the offset.

...that can also receive VHF & UHF, including 70cm. But chances are he was a a GMRS channel and was hearing linked repeaters.

The Radioddity G30 is a GMRS Radio

"some people" are so funny, all trying to prove who's smarter over something that does not matter in any way - The FCC doesn't even care. "some people" should bicker over something that actually matters.