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If you read the regulations strictly it’s not allowed.

I don’t think it was an omission. Fixed Stations may only communicate with other Fixed Stations so they cannot communicate through a repeater anyway. Also Fixed Stations are limited to 15 watts. It’s easy for me to imagine a set of Fixed Stations being used as for dedicated family communications between buildings, such as farmhouses and outbuildings on a farm or for irrigation control using DTMF controlled relays.

Nothing on FM. The only traffic on AM was during traffic jams. Seems like many truckers still have CB's but are only using them to communicate the location of a jam and which lanes are open. 4 times during my trip.

Oh, I see it now. Thanks! Interesting carve out for "Fixed Stations". Was there a specific reason for this exception to the repeater input clause or was it simply an omission in the text?

So what about talk around? I use that a lot. On the other side of the river where my repeater doesn't reach my home station does. So I just switch into talk around to communicate with the little lady.

FCC Part 95 Subpart A - 95.303 Definitions: Base station. A station at a fixed location that communicates directly with mobile stations and other base stations. Fixed station. A station at a fixed location that directly communicates with other fixed stations only.

I saw the new listing in RepeaterBook the other day, and on here today. I'm looking forward to this one.

There’s nothing in the regulations that prohibits simplex use on the 467 MHz main channels. They are limited to use for either repeater input, short term testing, OR Fixed Stations, with no mention of simplex or duplex. Others have already posted the regulation, but here it is anyway:

I'm not sure about that. I believe I recall reading that the 467Mhz frequencies are for repeater input only and simplex use is not allowed.

I hear what you are saying. There was no other traffic on the repeater... which is why I asked for a radio check... I didn't hijack the room. Just trying to learn what repeaters are enjoyable to use and which are not. Just took me by surprise...

Your radio, your choice, unless your radio is using their radio to retransmit (ie, you're hitting their repeater). When you use someone else's repeater, even one that is almost never used, you should attempt to comply with the repeater owner's requests for how their repeater is used. And if you misstep, just take it in stride when someone helps you to fit in better. It's a silly thing to get hung up on, either way, though. But when you enter a room, you look around to see how people are interacting in that room. A repeater is similar; you read the room first. If the room has largely agreed to not use roger beeps, why be *that guy*?

I agree. I am a HAM as well as a new GMRS user (moving more to GMRS, just because folks seem nicer). Just last evening, I added a stale repeater (open, no permission required to use) to my handheld and received an acknowledgement of my transmission and them promptly instructed to turn off the roger beep. It took me by surprise. Didn't know it was a thing with folks. I wanted to respond back, but didn't want to start a thing... And I didn't know if it was his repeater (and it is always him) or not. Just want to chat and learn...

Never heard FM there. Mostly AM Mudduckers...

I suspect even when it supports a farming operation, it will be quiescent more than it's transmitting. There probably are business operations which could overwhelm it, but even the GMRS repeaters I consider pretty active near me spend a lot more time listening than transmitting.

Remember those people claim it's a communication hobby. Really?

Read section C. These are the repeater main 467 channels. Fixed stations I believe are primarily for equipment control and not for normal communications. This would make sense since the 467 main channel frequencies are the repeater inputs, which can also receive control commands from a fixed station. 47 CFR § 95.1763 - GMRS channels. | Electronic Code of Federal Regulations (e-CFR) | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

If it's going to catch on, it will probably gradually grow from something like this -- using it to talk to other people who are part of your group. Eventually, if people hear activity on FM, they may start to use it.

Oh I've listened across the CB range using an SDR where it's easy to see the spectrum use. And wow, not just channel 6, but a few others are totally overrun with people who have to be causing brown-outs in their towns when they key up. The funny ones are where you see a big swoop across several channels every time they key up, finally landing on their desired channel, which they fill so broadly that they spill over into adjacent channels. The swoop is wild though. What kind of crazy equipment is sweeping through several channels on its way to landing where it is supposed to be?

I have AM/FM CB in my truck. My town is on I-35 south of Norman OK, and I do hear some traffic on CB, but none of it has ever been on FM. I suppose some might consider its hypothetically shorter range a detriment, but I think mostly nobody is on it because nobody is on it; i.e., why use FM when there's nobody to talk to? There are a couple of companies (sounds like maybe a gravel company and something else) near me that use CB and for that purpose FM would probably be superior.

Can't tell that when on channel 6, The Super Bowl.

Search for threads with Fixed Station in the title. There are a couple and they are multiple pages trying to address this.

Tthe Line A restriction no longer exists. I agree with everything else you said.

You're right. I skipped right over the part where you were only talking about fixed stations.

Yes, both input/output are the same. Not my first time programming/utilizing repeaters with this radio. The repeater must be out of service at this time. Not a lot of choices for repeaters on Cape Cod. Can't hit the two repeaters in Falmouth from Yarmouth.

Nope! This is what my copy says: (c) 467 MHz main channels. Only mobile, hand-held portable, control and fixed stations may transmit on these 8 channels. Mobile, hand-held portable and control stations may transmit on these channels only when communicating through a repeater station or making brief test transmissions in accordance with § 95.319(c). The channel center frequencies are: 467.5500, 467.5750, 467.6000, 467.6250, 467.6500, 467.6750, 467.7000, and 467.7250 MHz. Notice that fixed is not included in the restriction to repeater use. (Fixed stations aren't allowed to use repeaters so that makes sense.)