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How close together are the two radios? If you are holding one in your hand and the other is on the table in front of you, you are more than likely desensing the receiving radio so it cannot "hear" the repeater. Try having someone take the second radio to the other end of your house, or outside a couple 100 feet away, and try again.

People complain about buying a quality GMRS radio. If tomorrow the FCC says yup you can use digital what are folks going to use. DMR has been huge in for years now and other than the CCR world none of the big three make a DMR ham rig. So this means CCR junk on GMRS. Additionally same as ham if they don't specify a format folks will use whats suites them. For me P25 is the way to go. This just adds to the cluster. We can't get wideband/narrowband figured out on GMRS and folks want to add more complexity.

The digital would interfere with the analog. It wouldn't cause more interference, just interference to those still running analog. We aren't talking about Ham radio or a specific licensed frequency assigned to only you. We are talking about 1/8 repeater pairs, of which can be use in simplex mode by licensed and unlicensed people. Now if everyone caught on and started making their repeaters digital, GMRS would be unusable in analog mode in many places.

I’m all set. I have everything, including D-Star you forgot to list, except for a System Fusion radio. ?

I meant that for the OP not you. They were overthinking using codes and what is not permitted or permitted. I don't know who people are more scared of, the IRS auditing them or the FCC throwing someone in federal prison for 100 years for saying "I am going to echo delta 10-420 this zulu foxtrot and then covert charlie the man". I see so many posts on many of these sites where people overthink stuff.

No, not rhetorical at all. I have three different gmrs handheld radios (Motorola, Midland, and Garmin) that have separate up and down buttons for channels and tone. I don’t see how it could be easier. I don’t need my phone or a computer to program them. But we should really just be happy for Adamdaj that he found a radio that’s easy for him to use. We all want that!

I am not familiar with DMR and analog used on the same repeater. I know Yaesu Fusion has that capability and it is a nightmare. I have a bunch of Yaesu Fusion repeaters in my state, quite a few within range of me where they work better than some analog. I will not even program them in any radio because analog never gets used on them. They also happen to be linked together digitally, so when someone on another repeater wants to run digital decides to jump on and start talking to someone, they will walk right over me. I could just upgrade but I barely use the radio as it is, so a $400-$500 price tag for something I barely use is a bit much to choke on. I would hope a DMR/analog repeater doesn't behave the same way? When it comes to the bubble pack radios, digital would impact them. Tone squelching them wouldn't matter. If a digital signal comes across, it is still occupying that frequency causing the signals between the bubble pack radios to be diminished to the point where they wont be able to use them, just like I could take an analog radio and jam a digital signal if I am closer to their radio than the transmitting station. I am not saying this would happen all over the place, but with no coordination or the lack of studying who would get negatively impacted, someone out there would be out on their communications. The other thing with digital is that it doesn't work as well as analog. I have been in so many situations where my signal either didn't get through, or it was so garbled no one could understand me. On analog, the other person could have at least heard me through the static. With digital, either you are there or you are not, there is no middle ground. Digital should be left to Ham radio, OR petition the FCC to create another GMRS like band. There are a lot of abandoned frequencies over the country ever since they rebanded things and many public safety agencies went up into the 700/800 MHz band. Personally, I would love the FCC to make those left behind frequencies available to those who want to play with them.

Yep, I guess the FCC didn't really have to list every relation category. I just didn't want to assume the FCC excluded Cousins, unless it's the four-legged relatives. LOL Thanks! 73 to All

You right, no one should care whether a person uses Ten Codes or Q Codes on Amateur Radio or GMRS to aid in relaying information. After all, everyone should be entitled to say what they want, as long as it's profanity.