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On 11/22/2023 at 10:06 AM, Lscott said:
I've caught some very sporadic DMR traffic on channel 18 by me. It was a few transmissions during the day lasting a few seconds each. I haven't heard it in many months. I suspect either somebody miss programmed a radio, or did so deliberately. In any case it stopped and I suspect the local FCC might have had a hand in ending it.
There was a YouTube Video where 2 individuals were using an FRS channel in DMR format. Of course, I have to admit that sometimes I test DMR Radio using an FRS channel. I forget the manufactures, but there is DMR FRS radio out there.
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This Topic of using FCC part 90 equipment on 95 A service seems like a never-ending saga. I'm guilty of using Motorola Maxtacs and HT 1000s on GMRS prior to the recent update in 2017 taking GMRS from Part 95A to Part 95 E. Of course, someone who just get their GMRS License will tell me the GMRS was never Part 95 A. I know I probably right about that. I mean someone disagreeing from about GMRS use to be Part 95A. I wonder why the FCC changed it from Part A to E. FRS is still found in Part 95 B...
I apologize in advance for rambling on nonsense, but those same folks, sound like hall monitors. I mean when it comes to using used or new old stock radio that are part 90 certified for GMRS.
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On 11/29/2023 at 11:46 AM, Murph62 said:
Hey All,
Just joined the group and looking to learn as much as I can. Call sign WRZQ354, just picked up 2 Baofeng UV-9G. Configured a few things in Chirp. This is a little more confusing than I thought it would be, but I am fairly technical and hope to be up to speed soon. I plan on looking at the repeater map here and hopefully find permissions and willing sole for a radio check.
One question I do have is when talking just between these 2 radios for family, do I need to program the channel for a tone or squelch or can I do without. I guess if i do use a tone I would want to program each radio with that programmed as a favorite(not sure if that is the right term)????
Glad I found this group.
Thanks All
Murph
Hope you and your family make use of your GMRS license, because you'll want to get accustomed to using radios, especially when cellular service and land lines are down. Not Just during crisis, because even normal conditions, a Cellular Phone will not work due to lack of towers. On High Power Channel on simplex you can expect a range from 3 miles to 5 miles on an HT and about 8 to 10 miles even more on Mobiles. That's depending on your surroundings and the antenna being used.
Take Care!
Don't stop asking questions, because that add tools to your Comm Plan.
- SteveShannon and Murph62
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On 11/28/2023 at 3:06 PM, Sshannon said:
Just imagine if all the radio spectrum were unregulated. It would be like CB!
Oh heck No! Man, the FCC dropped the Ball when they decided to end individual licenses for Class D CB radio. Of course, I don't exactly reason for dropping the individual licenses. Than again, by the late 80s through 90s, there have been too many individuals who took advantage and made their own R&Rs. Man, No wonder why Amateur Radio Operators want distance themselves from !1m dwellers. I hope the FCC keeps FRS GMRS and MURS out communications H+ll, because it's the only social media network that doesn't require internet interface connection when everything goes down, and it will go down.
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I've had experience using GMRS Long Before I was even licensed for both. Back in 1993 or 94 the Philadelphia Operation Town Watch groups were migrating from 11m to GMRS. Our group TACONY had two board members that were licensed. According to the Rules & Regulations, every member should have applied for their License, since it was group and not family. As far as GMRS Part 95 Type Accepted Radios, they really weren't any. The City of Philadelphia issued some radios to each group, but those radios weren't Typed Accepted. By 1998 & 99 we went GMRS to LMR system, because licensing term were longer and the radios were already typed accepted for Business Band.
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34 minutes ago, Sshannon said:
Since this subject was revisited, it could be as simple as someone leaving a radio on VOX near a TV or broadcast radio receiver.
Got a point there! Most PSEs I've been on insisted everyone's HT had his or VOX disabled. Then again, I would try to keep all background noise to a low volume.
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On 8/10/2023 at 2:08 PM, ULTRA2 said:
I'm sure this question has been asked, but is it legal to broadcast Television programs on FRS? I thought it's illegal on all band correct me if I'm wrong.
Every morning I scan all band as a hobby of mine when it came on the 462mhz the scan stops on FRS7(462.7125) and I pick up a faint but readable signal. Not regular transmission but like a program of some sort being broadcasted. What my question is it legal? Thanks in advance.
Hopefully I posted this on the right location if not feel free to move it.
Technically, according to FCC Rules & Regulations regarding two-way radio service in general, it's forbidden for anyone regardless of Radio Service to Rebroadcast Commercial TV or Radio programs. Sometimes you have those mishaps when you for to lower the volume on your TV or your general broadcast radio, those are often overlooked. Even Rebroadcasting for another two-way radio service is forbidden by FCC R&Rs.
I don't like someone's gone to say to post, No Doh! I know the Majority of us are well aware we can and can't do or shouldn't do on any Radio Service.
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On 3/9/2023 at 6:24 PM, WRVG593 said:
What protocol? There's no listed 10 codes. We can say LEO, Firefighter, etc. But they all have different codes
Sorry it took so long to get back to this topic. You're absolutely right! Or
It kind of makes me irritated when certain individuals tell you, you can't use 10-codes on Amateur Radio, because it sounds like CB. Then again you can't Q-codes on CB or GMRS. Hey, as long as you are in the confines of the FCC Rules and Regulations. Who Care?
I understand why Amateur Radio Operators do not want to hear, That's a Big 10-4 good buddy! That Hollywood motion picture such. If someone says 10-4, let it be. Not 10-4 Good buddy
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I agree with OffRoader X, GMRS wasn't really intended for casual rag chawing with anyone. GMRS is valuable tool that Allows non-HAMs to communicate with HAMs or with Group that their affiliated with.
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17 hours ago, WRQC527 said:
Also, don't forget about the ARRL Field Day, which is June 29-30, as well as Winter Field Day, which is January 27-28.
Winter Field Day maybe ok for those who like rough it in cold temperatures, but no me. I can't stand Temperatures below 50 for more than 24 hours. I apologize for confusing you, because I confuse myself. And that's too easy to do. That question the ability to monitor Amateur Radio or Other Radio Services on a GMRS radio what that hard nor was it silly. It just sounded silly at first.
73's
WQAI363
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6 minutes ago, OffRoaderX said:
You're still getting it wrong.
According to the FCC's public enforcement database, its not that they do not take actions quickly, it is that statistically, they do not take action at all.. With about 6 enforcements for the things you are referring to, in the last 11 or 12 years.
Ok! I'm WRONG!
i guess I do have a problem with staying a specific topic. I sincerely apologize and will try to KIS & TTP when I Post another comment.
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36 minutes ago, OffRoaderX said:
In your world are there unicorns too? Is the FCC in the room with us now?
Ok! I have to admit that I am wrong about the FCC when it does take actions. I didn't say that the FCC works to resolve issues quickly, because the FCC is just as any Federal Government entity, the FCC operate just as slow.
I apologize for sounding like moron, but I wanted to add my two cents.
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On 10/7/2023 at 8:20 PM, OffRoaderX said:
C'mon man, dont joke around! As @Adamdaj pointed out, this is a very serious subject, i'm just waiting for his response because obviously the FCC takes these matters very seriously.
Thank you for defending my comment! I don't mean to sound like 3rd grader, but most of the time, I speak before I think. I don't want to tell you or anyone else what you already know, so I just try harder to sound more intelligent, especially when comes to the Rules & Regulations.
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16 hours ago, WRQC527 said:
Actually, it's the ARRL that has a Field Day. It's the last full weekend in June. Next year it's June 29 and 30.
You don't have to explain to me about the ARR Field Day. I been attending Field Days for Quite some time. I just meant the FCC would have a Field Day going after violators that transmit bands that they aren't authority to
I was not talking about ARRL FIELD DAY. I meant that the FCC would have a Field Day rounding up violators who continue to mess around on systems that they have no business using, especially when those knuckleheads whistle or make other unauthorize noise.
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On 10/7/2023 at 8:20 PM, OffRoaderX said:
C'mon man, dont joke around! As @Adamdaj pointed out, this is a very serious subject, i'm just waiting for his response because obviously the FCC takes these matters very seriously.
I don't mean to sound uneducated, but seriously to ask a question such as this, seems silly. Almost like asking, could I monitor AAR Channels with either a GMRS radio or Amateur Radio? Depending on radio the individual owns, he or she may have wide 136.to 174.000 and 400 to 512.000. Of course, the Midland or Maxon line of GMRS radios will either be just on GMRS or NOAA Weather Rx Only. As far as transmitting on frequencies other than GMRS without proper license, such as Amateur Radio or Commercial Business, the FCC would have a Field Day only if the parties that uses those frequencies reported to the FCC.
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Can I monitor HAM radio frequencies with a GMRS License?
This question seems so silly. Of course, you can MONITOR Amateur Radio frequencies. Unless you also have a n Amateur Radio License, you are not allowed to press the PTT on the Amateur Radio bands or any other Radio Services. As matter of fact, if you radio is open transmit, you should disable transmit or Rx only function.
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On 8/3/2023 at 10:52 PM, buttholejim said:
I have no understanding why the FCC can't, or wont allow multiple type certifications for a single radio. My point here is that I can't see any reason that you can't legally buy a type certified radio that covers both MURS, FRS, and Marine VHF. Is this because the manufactures don't want to bother with this? Or is there something within current FCC rules that I'm missing that prohibits this?
Currently there's four "services" that do not require licensing, Marine VHF (license requirement eliminated in 1996), MURS, FRS, and Citizens Band (11M).
Marine VHF is an interesting one. The limitations are pretty generous. The way I understand the current rules for Marine VHF is that as long as you are using to communicate with another person on (or near?) a navigable body of water, it's within the rules. So technically, if one party is on a kayak in a creek large enough to allow kayaking, and the other is onshore (and at no specifically defined distance from the water), communication on the Marine VHF band is permitted. Anywhere in the country. The power limitation is 25 watts for Marine VHF.
What burns my bacon is you can buy a radio(s) that does have this capability (but they're not "legal"), so the technology is available, but the FCC wants you to buy 3 radios... Hmmm... maybe I just answered my own question...
I would try to answer your question, but I can't answer the question if I'm just as confused.
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On 9/11/2023 at 7:25 PM, scott418 said:
Ok, so I know some HTs are capable of crossband repeat. So, could I "in theory" say, transmit on a MURS channel and recieve on a GMRS frequency?
Or am I overthinking this concept?
What are you going crossband too? There's only a single band on GMRS, it's not like Amateur Radio or the LMR, where there's VHF Low VHF High and UHF. Obviously Crsss banding from GMRS to 2m Amateur is a Big No No. even on simplex. You could attempt it on MURS and GMRS, but that's still violates FCC R&R under 95 E & J. I think that the PEG SYSTEM uses GMRS simplex to crossband to VHF low band on some of PEG Radio Systems, but is it totally in compliance with FCC R&R. I'm not sure.
If I where going to, but I wouldn't. I would use 462.5750 pl 85.4 / 154.6000 pl 146.2. However, unless there's urgent need to this, I rather follow protocol.
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On 7/23/2023 at 10:11 PM, WRXY704 said:
Hi everyone,
I am new to the GMRS community and using a HT TIDRADIO GM-5R, so nothing big yet.
Just wanted to reach out as I was hoping in the Denver/Aurora-border area in CO are some
GMRS users whom I can connect to.
I was hoping also to maybe create a GMRS radio community watch in order to maybe
be aware of some suspicious activities in the area.
I know, there is also NEXTDOOR, but until you get a notification, it might be already too late.
Let me know, if there is someone nearby. As mentioned, I have only the HT and would only
go and install a base station, if really necessary.I was using CB radio long time ago, but wanted to join the GMRS-community as you are
just more serious and also more professional, due to the license and the quite low amount
of available channels.Looking forward to hearing from you.
I may get slack from others on the forum, but we all right to disagree about anything, Especially, when it comes to using radios different radio services. We all agree those of us that are also licensed Amateur Radio Operators that a Radio meant for part 97 should not be modified for any other radio services. Many of us including myself have had Amateur Radios modified for use on GMRS. You'll notice another forum on using new old stock or used part 90 radios GMRS. I myself do use part 90 radios for GMRS, but up to 2010 - 2017 things really got confusing, the majority of GMRS Repeater Systems that been using FCC Part 90 Equipment for Decades real. Yes, I agree one should stay within confines of FCC Part 95 E. However, I wouldn't necessarily stay away from Part 90 radios, because a lot of them do have clean clear audio on the GMRS band. I steer away from channels 08 through 14, due to power output.
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20 minutes ago, WRXH357 said:
I'm fairly new to the whole GMRS thing. Been on the radio (so to speak) for a few months now. I've been able to connect over repeaters and some simplex connections.
I have yet to really hear anyone using the "Travel" channels. To which I see/read PLENTY of people arguing about the "Travel" channels. Why all the hate/discontent about what channel/frequency/tone to use?? Am I missing something?
I have programmed a channel with the (what I believe is) the "old school" travel channel settings. Do I need to add more channels setup up for "travel"??
(sigh)
I'm taking a wild guess, you're asking if there's a national calling or hailing channel, right? I don't want to steer you wrong or get into discussion that I myself get stuck on times. Yet I'm licensed Amateur Radio Operator as well as a GMRS licensee. Being a VE I feel weird not understanding the FCC radio service rules and regulations on bot 95 and 97. But keep asking !
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On 5/29/2023 at 9:13 AM, UncleYoda said:
I hate everything about DMR. I particularly hate the way it's taking up frequencies in HAM. I would file for a refund of my GMRS fee if the FCC implemented your proposal. Digital should get its own bands and not take over our analog frequencies.
I know that you said that you hate everything about DMR. However, I didn't hear her say anything about DSTAR / IDAS or P-25, which also takes a lot of real state in the Amateur Radio Service. Of course, I do understand where you're coming from, meaning that GMRS is only one band of channels and to integrate DMRS or other formats would only take away space for analog. I can't say that I totally agree with you, because I do see some advantages to using DMR on GMRS.
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On 6/26/2023 at 9:10 PM, WRWR489 said:
We have a very active upstate GMRS area here in Upstate SC. Have any of the local repeaters set up any plans for the Trump rally in Pickens Saturday? Maybe traffic updates Ect.?
Don't understand your post! You talk about activity of GMRS in upstate SC, but what's that have to do with a Trump Rally?
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On 6/27/2023 at 11:19 AM, Guest QuiltinMom said:
Where would be a good place to learn the very basics of GMRS? We would like to embrace GMRS as a close range communication device. We have Ham licenses and hubby has a GMRS that applies to our family. We have a couple of small hand held (I believe, Midland) GMRS radios. We also have a mobile GMRS that was purchased at a ham fest, so a used radio. We have a ham tower at our house and have been approached by a local club about putting a GMRS repeater on it. Before agreeing to the GMRS repeater we would like to source info outside of that club to make sure it won't interfere with our ham communications.
Can the small hand helds use a GMRS repeater? I don't believe they can be programed and the antenna is not removable. We plan to put up a GMRS antenna on our ham tower. Will that only benefit the mobile radio and not the hand helds? We would also like to incorporate GMRS with our local Jeep club, but probably only using the hand helds as I don't want another radio installed on the Jeep.
Sorry, lots and lots of questions, but don't know where to get the very very basic info. Ham has been our focus, but I have interest in bringing in GMRS. THANKS for the help!!!
Obviously, you're here on the MyGMRS.com. There are a lot of resources out there on GMRS repeaters and a lot more qualified individuals other than myself, that give you straight answers to questions that you may have.
NorthWest Ga Repeaters
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I'm not sure where the NW Georgia Repeater area, but I would keep asking around. I'm not too sure about certain GMRS repeaters my general vicinity, I know I have permission to use them, but only one I am not sure if I can get on the National Net.