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THE ANNUAL CITY TO SHORE IS AROUND THE CORNER. SEPTEMBER 24TH & 25TH RADIO COMMUNICATION VOLUNTEERS ARE STILL IN DEMAND.
LINDENWAL CAMDEN CO. NJ. TO OCEAN CITY NJ
- SAG WAG DRIVER OR PASSENGER/ COMM PERSONS
- STAFF CAR DRIVERS & COMM PERSONS
- COMMUNICATION CORDINATION STAFF PERSON
- NORTH END DISPATCHERS
- SOUTH END DISPATCHERS
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I know that there's NO such thing as a FREE LUNCH or RIDE, which I totally agree with. I also fully comprehend, that it requiers money to maintain a repeater or repeater systems. I just had the feelling when spoke with Ed aka 820 or 822, he seemed like an arrogant person. I will admit that I was out of line for ignoring for Ed's request for me to stay off the repeater. However, I wouldn't mind paying atlease $30.00 a month , because unlike bills that must be paid in or to live, something such as supporting the system's up keep , dues should be negotiable. I mean dues still need to paid, but keep it to minimum at $30.00 a month.
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I sicerely appologize for classifying LEERN as an Organization. Maybe I did wasted everyone's time for what I have posted, when I really don't have any knowledge of LEERN. I do know that LEERN has some non Law Enforcement individuals who are members. That's the only thing that I'm sure of. Then again I maybe 100% wrong on rules and regulations.
My first expierence using was back 1993, where the Town Watch that was a member of switch from CB to GMRS. Only two members held licenses and the membership Piggy Backed. Of course, I know now that's a technical violation, at lease in today's standards. But I do know that repeater that LEERN has should ID even if members are not required.
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14 minutes ago, Lscott said:
Then the next question being is the frequency "grandfathered" by any chance? The local GMRS repeater by me is the "backup" repeater for the city's fire department. I don't think they currently have a license to use it for fire department operations so it's being used by general licensed GMRS operators. But then again I haven't check to see about any old licenses either. In your case if the frequency is in fact grandfathered in it could be, due to some FCC rule, they don't need to ID. This will take more research on your part. I would dig into this a lot more before filing any complaints or calling them.
The frequency is (462.575 + 5MHZ ), but from what I understand about the FCC's grandfather rules,each employee is covered under the business license. Only the Business has to ID.
However, LEERN is an Organization and not a Business, each member is require to identify themselves with their FCC assign Call Sign.
I'm not fill a complaint, because it may or maynot be a violation which the FCC has more serious issues to tackle. Then again who really follows rules all the not just with Radio Communication, but in General ?
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On 8/17/2022 at 8:16 AM, WRAM370 said:
I don’t know if these “Leern” or “Learn” GMRS systems are commonplace throughout the country, but there seems to be one in the south Jersey region (southern New Jersey, for those not from the area). The people go “10-8” and “10-7”, they will be “10-17” or “10-25”…blah blah blah. This is a GMRS repeater on 462.575. It is not a public safety radio system. It is a privately owned repeater.
I never hear a callsign from these people, only unit numbers (“825 10-8”). I don’t know if this is a single repeater or a linked network, but what I hear is at least 50+ air miles away and the owner seems to have no concerns for others that would like to use that repeater pair, so I imagine he is ignorant and inconsiderate. I also believe this is a “subscription” repeater, which means you have to pay to use it, so I don’t think he is offering any sort of “community service” with this excessively large footprint repeater.
As for law enforcement, or any public safety employees, having exemptions to ID on GMRS, the answer is no. And I don’t know if this LEERN or LEARN system has much to do with active members of public safety, or if this is just a bunch of wannabes and whackers. Just like the wannabes I hear on ham radio who announce they are “on radio”, pretending to be signing on for duty with a dispatch system. I can pretty much guarantee when the SHTF and “when all else fails”, these are the people who will fold immediately under pressure, because they are only about the appearance, and not about the true courage and integrity that is required to rise to an occasion.
I can tell you with much certainty that those in public safety don’t generally go around announcing they are “10-8” if they key up a GMRS or FRS radio, and they don’t announce they are “10-17” to their local grocery store, as I have heard from this group. In fact, the normal behavior of those in public safety, particularly those in law enforcement, is to stay well below the radar, especially when your address is publicly listed by the FCC.
Whackers, wannabes, strokers, foamers…they all seem to be drawn to radios for some reason. I often think it is because it gives them something to hold in their hand.
Unit 820 Name I won't say, but I wish I could have him hauled in impersonating a Law Enforcement Officer because he is very arrogant. I won't excuse myself for keying on that system not knowing that it a closed system,but at that I didn't know. Yes I have keyed it several time just to talk a friend who I thought that we were going his repeater. Unit 822 or 820 chewed me out over the phone and threaten me.
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On 8/16/2022 at 6:25 PM, OffRoaderX said:
Are you saying that they are using GMRS as their primary comms? Are you sure you arent listening to a relay/rebroadcast from their primary frequency to GMRS?
Or, are you sure they aren't using FRS radios, which would require no license?
Nope They don't rebroadcast , that's clearly a violation under PART 95 and 97. The Members of that organization neglect follow protocal when it comes to ID ing with FCC call sign. I don't if they exempt for given their call-sign because of being active or retire law enforcement. Which from what I, there are no exemption for one.
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On 8/16/2022 at 9:27 PM, Lscott said:
You sure they aren’t using plain old FRS radios. Both FRS and GMRS share the same exact frequencies. Difference is FRS is limited to 2 watts on most channels and call signs are not required.
The LEERN SYSTEM uses repeater set on (462.575) CH 16 with multiple repeater sites. Every time a LEERN MEMBER keys up, the only identification is, membership number/unit. That's not exactly going by FCC's R's&R's in Part 95 E. I don't I ever heard anyone give their FCC assing Call Sign. To answer your question, from I hear they don't use for any Law Enforce activity, just chit-chat as anyone would do. The one member 820,to me he comes accross as being arrogant. I really wonder if his Law Enforcement Career was a short one, because he sure thinks above everyone that isn't in Law Enforcement.
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I started monitor the LAW ENFORCEMENT EMERGENCY RADIO NETWORK on GMRS and I notice No one ever gives their proper FCC issued Call Sign. I know unit number or Tactical doesn't comply FCC rules. Are Public Safety Officials exempt from identifying their station? If not then I could, but I won't contact the FCC. One the FCC has more important issues to contend with. Two I also been known to bend or stretch the rules when it come two way radio. However I do my best to abide by the rules set fouth by the FCC.
ARES or Skywarn for GMRS?
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According to my knowlege traditionally ARES as well as RACES uses the Amateur Radio Service their primary group comms, but I assume GMRS could benefit in times of crisis. As far as the expense of HAM Radio as hobby, whelther it's Amateur Radio or GMRS equipment you will find isn't going to be much difference in expense. All the major manufactures, starting with Alinco, ICOM, Kenwood, Midland, Motorola and Vertex / Yaesu, prices will vary. Especially when you add in the cost of antenna coax and power supply. Some of these manufactures produce good quality radios, might not be FCC 95 Typed Accepted, but the new old stock or use UHF radios will do just as well the new.