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Hi, (If there is a thread on this, my apologies. Please point me at it) I know myGMRS has a repeaters page. But like all repositories of info.... sometimes things are stale, and I find some of the repeaters that require permission just don't reply one way or the other. I've seen quite a few other repeater phone books. I'm wondering if people wouldn't mind sounding off with some of their favorite repositories for repeater info. Thanks!

Got it. Ok. Thanks!

Please excuse my ignorance. I'm new to the GMRS scene. Is it that the base station is not allowed because it has 50W output? If said base station were capable of limiting it's output to say (5W or .5W).... can it then? Or do manufacturers disable TX on the FRS channels alltogether? (or both)

Are you referring to the KG-1000Gplus? It can not transmit to FRS radios?

yep. Perfectly understood. I don't intend to at this point. I'm new to GMRS/HAM and had only dug enough to be dangerous when I started the thread.

Thanks for all the input! Noted! Will do. I'll plan to snag the Q10H after I pass my Technician exam. Hopefully "real soon now". For GMRS I settled on KG-935g+. It seems to have ample GMRS features, and can RX all of 2m and 70cm. It was a little on the pricey side but I'm happy with it. It's built like a rock. I am in a suburb 19miles from a downtown repeater and I can talk through it just fine. The repeater itself supposedly has a 50mile TX radius, and is connected to a national network it seems? So is pretty interesting.

(This is a question as much as a statement since I am terribly new) ... but what you say @Sshannon was my understanding. "Kerchunks" aside, If you are transmitting to a repeater TX side, and someone on the RX side can actually hear you, then you are hitting it. The same would be true if you had a second HT in the house (on RX chan) and could hear yourself on it. True?

If you are referring to ChatGPT "wanting" anything.... I fear you give it way to much credit. It doesn't want anything more than your toaster wants to toast your bread. But this will take us all way off topic I'm sure.

... that said... I don't think the FCC is wandering around in the woods looking for any hikers to prosecute. Surely they have bigger fish. One of the other gentz on this forum mentioned he had access to the public FCC database on GMRS rule infractions, and he said seemingly to date... there are zero. in any case, I'd say you are likely safe if you ID for the lot. But if you get caught... you don't know me.

I had found it here: https://moonrakeronline.com/us/wouxun-kg-q332-set-radio-frequency-50-54mhz sounds like it may be fair for HAM but I would still need a dedicated GMRS HT to be legit on GMRS. Still.... looks useful for the HAM side of things maybe.

Hi, Thanks for the reply! yeah, I have read that which is a bit why I'm asking. If not supposed to.... Why did they bother to make one? Why is that specifically? Is it due to FCC rules.... or "it really won't work" ? (I do want to keep it legit and legal of course. Am just curious) Yep. understood completely. GMRS license covers immediate family... no chance anyone else in family getting HAM license I'd think. yes, 100% agree. Hence the questions.

Hi all, Total newb here. Jumping in an prolly gonna cause a flame war. But..... here goes anyways. I thought the OP was an interesting question. I had no clue honestly. Never ocurred to me. So, I thought I would ask "ChatGPT", as I find it a useful additional source for all my internet digging. It had the following to say...... =-=-=-=- ChatGPT Output =-=-=-=-= I'm curious if there are any negative effects of transmitting a HAM or GMRS radio without an antennae ChatGPT Transmitting on a HAM or GMRS radio without an antenna, or with an improperly matched or tuned antenna, can have several negative effects, including: Reduced Range: The antenna on a radio system is designed to transmit and receive signals efficiently. Without an antenna or with a poorly matched antenna, the effective range of your radio will be severely limited. You may only be able to communicate over very short distances. Potential Damage: Transmitting without an antenna or with a poorly matched antenna can cause the radio's transmitter to reflect power back into the radio's circuitry. This reflected power can result in increased heat, which may damage the radio over time. Increased Heat and Power Dissipation: Transmitting without an antenna can cause the radio's transmitter to work harder to dissipate power, which can result in overheating and reduced efficiency. Interference: Using an antenna that is not properly matched to the radio can result in poor signal quality and increased susceptibility to interference, which can make communication difficult. Violation of Regulations: Operating a HAM or GMRS radio without a proper antenna may violate the rules and regulations set forth by the FCC or other relevant regulatory authorities. This can lead to legal issues and potential fines. It's essential to use the appropriate antenna for your radio system to ensure efficient and safe operation, as well as to comply with regulatory requirements. If you encounter antenna issues or are unsure about the proper antenna setup for your radio, consult the radio's user manual or seek advice from experienced operators or radio technicians. Can you provide references for the above comments? ChatGPT Certainly, I can provide references to support the information provided in my previous responses about the negative effects of transmitting on HAM or GMRS radios without an antenna or with an improperly matched antenna. Please note that the specific regulations and guidelines may vary by country, so it's important to consult the relevant regulatory authority in your country for the most accurate and up-to-date information. Here are some general references: Reduced Range and Potential Damage: ARRL (American Radio Relay League): "Getting Started with Ham Radio" - Antenna Basics ARRL: "RF Exposure and You" - Transmission Line and Antenna Safety Increased Heat and Power Dissipation: W8JI Technical Resource: "Antenna Efficiency" - Tuner Losses RadioReference.com Forums - Using HT without an Antenna Interference: ARRL: "RF Interference" - Causes of RF Interference Violation of Regulations: Federal Communications Commission (FCC) - FCC Rules for the GMRS FCC - Amateur Radio Service These references provide information on antenna basics, transmission line safety, and the potential consequences of using radios without appropriate antennas. Remember to verify the specific regulations and guidelines relevant to your country or region from the appropriate regulatory authority. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- interesting stuff. Who knew? EDIT: Regarding the "references"... I only just now tried to follow some of them. They are 404. ChatGPT was trained on information several years old.... =-=-=- More ChatGPT =-=-=- Some of your references return 404. Remind me what year you stopped training? ChatGPT I apologize for any broken links in the provided references. My training data includes information up until September 2021, and it appears that some of the links I provided may have changed or become inactive since that time. I don't have real-time internet access to verify external web content. For the most current and accurate information, I recommend visiting the official websites of organizations like the ARRL (American Radio Relay League) or the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) and searching for relevant topics on their respective websites. If you have any specific questions or need more detailed information, feel free to ask, and I'll do my best to provide accurate responses based on my training data. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Hi All, I'm new to GMRS and HAM. I've acquired my GMRS license, and am working towards HAM Technician. I stumbled on to needing GMRS for communications while at marching contests for my kids. We were (are) using FRS radios and seem to lose quality if a butterfly were to pass between us. So I started searching for higher power devices, when I became aware of GRMS and it's capabilities and licensing, etc. Also tangled up I discover the world of HAM... and now I'm down a rabbit hole, but it all seems fun... so here I go. In any case, I'm interested to upgrade my hardware. Since I now have interest in GRMS and HAM I'm wondering if I can purchase a reasonable HT (reasonable in terms of cost and legal) to cover both. After some internet spelunking I've kind of set my sights on the following device: Wouxun Multi Bands Two Way Radio KG-Q332 It seems it covers the following TX bands: 50Mhz-54Mhz (6 meter) 136Mhz-174Mhz (2 meter) 222Mhz-225Mhz (1.25 meter) 400Mhz-480Mhz (70 centimeter) This covers a variety of HAM bands, as well as GMRS at 462/467Mhz. It's limited to 5w VHF and 4w UHF. I've never heard of this manufacturer until I began digging. I'm curious on the following 1) Is it of reasonable quality for the approx $150 I see it listed for? 2) Does anyone have experience with this HT, and what is your overall opinion 3) Considering that GMRS is at 462/467 Mhz, and the device TXs at such.... can I assume it works for GMRS (and hopefully with repeaters)? 4) Considering this covers so many bands and is likely a HAM device.... is it legal for GMRS ? Considering the legality... (I'm new to all this)... While I can't find the FCC ID of this specific device yet, the majority of this manufacturers FCC IDs seem to be licensed for Part15b. Which seems odd as it is neither HAM nor GMRS? So I'm really curious. Sorry for the really long post! Any/All help is appreciated!