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Was at the Jeep Invasion show this weekend in TN and talked to the Midland Rep on site. they had the MTX575 on site. It is much bigger box than the 275. I would say its at least 3-4 times bigger. That's a disappointment. It does have a mini usb on the front next to the mic jack so it may have some programming flexibility but he didn't know. . The rep I talked to said late fall is target to sell them. Of course he knew nothing about W/N band. I tried to explain the repeater issue but he seemed to either not care or not understand. YMMV
Disappointing that the Midland Personal Radio rep can't talk intelligently about those subjects. I don't think Midland wants to see GMRS as anything more than a consumer toy. If customers were knowledgeable, they might buy radios with better specs and features. Funny that Midland does not make GMRS repeaters. The problem may be the corporate structure as they do have , (or once did) a land mobile radio division that once made some fair to midland (pun intended) mobile radios.
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I think the lesson here is that if all you want is a cheap simplex radio to talk short distances in your group, then by all means buy a couple Midland radios. They will unfortunately be low performance narrow band radios by design.
If you want to talk through repeaters and talk to other licensees, you need a commercial grade radio like many of the Kenwood radios. They are plentiful from used market at cheap price. They will have wide band capability, better receivers, multiple CTCSS ( PL ) / DCSS (DCS), split tone , repeater capability. Etc
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I think his dual band base antenna is presenting a ton of signal at 155.850 MHz and his Chinese receivers are overloading and creating third harmonic on or near 467.6375 MHz . A quick check would to put a UHF single band whip on the radio and see if the signal is radically reduced or goes away. It is too coincidental that the third harmonic falls right on channel.I see they are on 155MHz. It is unlikely they are on 155mHz since 155mHz is 0.155Hz.
155.880MHz * 3 = 467.640MHz --> close enough to 467.6375MHz = FRS channel 11.
Any chance the 155.880 transmitter site is VERY close to the OP's location?
I would not rule out a spurious signal from the sheriff repeater, but we are talking about a $30K repeater and duplexer versus a $35 Chinese receiver. Any bets?
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I ressurected some Motorola Securenet DES equipment.
It sounds much better than P25 and has a 12 Kbps CVSD vocoder that was designed in the 1980s.
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Yes, I think your receiver is likely the problem.Update: I have sent a letter to the Sheriff's office. I have received no reply. I have my D578 up and running as a base
station. I am hearing the traffic certain times of the day of this radio? Still think it's a harmonic?
Thanks
WRCW870
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My distance to horizon calculator begs to differ...
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I am still waiting for the announcement. Maybe they are waiting for stock to be depleted on the older models?Any new news as to when we might see these? I'm particularly interested in the 575.
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I had no affiliation with ARISS and as far as I know ARISS does not control private contacts with the ISS. Nor does ARISS have any control of the airwaves.At a guess it was a result of their scheduling protocols. As I mentioned they have several hundred requests every year and have to make decisions far in advance.
Did this science center already have a firm sked set up?
I was requested by local ham club to set up my station at a private event at a new museum. Instead of them politely inquiring what my involvement was I got bashed by so called "ARISS officials".
I was just the guy who accepted when asked to volunteer my time and equipment.
Very bad PR on their part. They could have been supportive if that is their charter, but instead chose to be asses.
So no, no demo from me.
This was a long while back, but left very bad taste for that org.
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Some years ago, a science center opened up near where I used to live. The local ham club asked me to move my satellite station there for an ISS contact. So naturally, I volunteered. Big mistake, next day, word got around to ARISS and I got all kinds of nasty messages from the ARISS folks saying I could not do that. Great way to treat volunteers.Please note that school events are scheduled several years in advance.
For more information on the ARISS* program, see: ARISS - Home
* ARISS - Amateur Radio on the International Space Station
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There was an FRS to FRS contact in Washington state some years ago that was over 70 miles. A hiker got injured, called for help and kids playing with FRS heard the call. This was between mountains.
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I have a bunch of Ritron DTX450 data modules that are based on the Patriot.
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That is very cool indeed!
My best was some 2M SSB from Tallahassee FL to Texas and once to Clingmans Dome in Blue Ridge Mountains . But both times I had over 100 watts at 90 feet AGL and a RX masthead preamp.
So your walkie at ground level GMRS is damn impressive.
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I like option 2. Perhaps social media can encourage local participation during the holidays.Yeah, a mall by me has a GMRS repeater setup on RPT16, the same channel the local repeater, fortunately using a different tone, I use is on only 6 to 7 miles away with around 80 registered users. Their license expired in 10/2015! They still use it.
They way I look at it their choices are as follows.
1. Keep using it. Ignorance is bliss.
2. If the repeater gets "hijacked" by licensed GMRS users, ignore them. (see option 6 why this might be the better choice for the moment)
3. Get a legit business only licensed frequency. Then have their radios reprogrammed, repeater reprogrammed and the duplexer re-tuned to use it.
4. Shut it all down and go away.
5. Switch to using FRS radios instead giving up the repeater.
6. Complain to the FCC about their repeater getting "hijacked" by licensed GMRS users, get shut down by the FCC and pay $10k's in fines for operating illegally without a license for almost 7 years. Then go to option 3, 4 or 5 anyway.
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Isnt this a done deal? I don't see any reply comment period.
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Maybe, but I did a search for some other xxxx600 named repeaters and some were also .550. Also Hans said his was wrong as well. Odd.
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On or before (*) 6/21/2021 my repeaters frequency was altered in the database. I don't recall any reason to have logged in and done that. Another owner has told me his was changed as well.
(*) Date of weekly update email.
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There was a report of someone having desense between two cheap Chinese radios over a mile from each other line of sight.
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It would be a pretty indefensible position for the FCC if challenged to prove a licensee's use of a part 90 radio in a non-interfering manner was causing harm.
The FCC would have to prove excessive power or interference directly related to the part 90 usage.
The numbers of FCC NALs issued for GMRS operations is nearly zero. The few exceptions are flagrant business use of the repeater pairs.
The biggest risk on the reputation of the service are the knuckleheads that operate without a license because "they are special".
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According to the link, the FCC grant is for wideband 16K0F3E. Kudos to Midland if they finally took heed that GMRS is a wideband service. I might buy one of these for the wife's vehicle.Found some photos looks like a mish-mash of the 400.
Is it me or does the body of the radio look like the body of a Yaesu FTM400?
Looks like it is going to be a great radio. Available 25khx spacing. Testing showing 49.x Watts (manufacturer cushion to allow for tolerance variations). Looks very spectral clean with almost no spurious emissions.
My only gripe "hi and lo" power settings from what I can see in the manual. So you get 5w or 50w, wouldn't a medium of 15-20w power setting been nice? don't like running radios at full power unless I need to.
https://fccid.io/MMAXT575/External-Photos/Ext-Photos-5212922
https://fccid.io/MMAMXT575
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Well, in this case you are. I WORK for the company that put in the last of the public safety DMR systems in Ohio. And then bought it back. And oddly enough, we installed the system that was 3 counties away, that was interfering with at least one of the channels and had that customer complaining that they were hearing the DMR noise from a repeater that was 3 counties away. Installed on a 4 story building, running a 40 watt XPR8300 repeater on VHF. The Frequency in question was 155.415. Motorola was NOT pleased at all about any of it. They had never interferred with each other when they were bout analog. Never even heard each other. But the DMR being heard by teh analog was an issue, and the bigger issue was the DMR subscribers were hearing the analog signal strongly enough (was a 5 site simulcast system) that they were not fully capturing the DMR signal and the BER was climbing to the point they were unable to decode the signal. It happened on 3 of the 4 public safety VHF frequencies. If it were UHF, it would most likely been different. We did some testing to see if it could be fixed. Tried setting the radios to color code free instead of channel free. No dice. We also tried to see how well DMR would talk out. Took a subscriber out to a distance that it was hearing mostly noise on NB FM. Switched it to DMR and had a BER that floated between 2 and 3%.
Had you installed a P25 system on that frequency and site, the complaints would have been exactly the same.
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A repeater controller like Zetron 38 or 48B has a mode where it will count activity on any of the tone slots programmed into it.
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Many medical, LE, SAR , and news helicopters have Technisonics UHF FM air to ground radios which can be tuned to FRS and GMRS frequencies.
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Roger Beeps are annoying...
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