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    WSAD847 reacted to WRKC935 in ANSWER.... What are the proper steps to putting a GMRS repeater on the air?   
    Go pop some popcorn and kick back.... This WILL be a long read.
    So you have you license.  Now you want to put up a repeater.  Great,,,, maybe,, usually.  But have you thought it through or do you just really want to hear your call sign coming across the airways if CW?  This is going to explain how to do it right to NOT cause interference with other repeater owners and be mindful of the limited resource (8 repeater pairs) we have been designated by the FCC.  This will cover planning, equipment, antenna's and everything in between.  Please ask questions about the topics as they are posted, and if you see something missing you would like covered, message me and I will do my level best to cover that topic.  I have been a commercial two-way radio tech for 13 years a ham for almost 30 and have been working on electronics and radios for 40 years. 
     
    First thing is to listen. 
    Listen to the repeater pair OUTPUTS.  These are the 462 frequencies in the 462/467 pairs.  They are what the repeaters will be transmitting on.  The reason you want to listen is you want the quietest one for your area.  Now that doesn't necessarily mean the one with the least traffic.  So if you have several repeaters around you that are not all that busy, but the signal from them is always very strong and clear and maybe a busier frequency talks alot, but is far off in the distance 4 towns over, any your plans are for a small footprint, with a 30 or 40 foot tower, that may well be the better frequency to choose.  You need to consider a couple things here.  Number one is the total number of pairs available.  We only have 8 for EVERYWHERE.  Why is that important?  Because the guys with the monsters, like me how just talked to a guy 40 miles away from his repeater, can cover huge area's with their repeaters.  And some of them see the value in what they have and allow others to use it openly.  That's my stance on it.  I say the same thing to everyone that asks.  Make sure to ID your station and have fun.  But if you are sitting on an otherwise open frequency, he may not use it for a wide area coverage machine.  I am thinking on writing a thread on frequency management at a state level for GMRS, but that comes later.  So back to the footprint you are looking to achieve, and you need to be reasonable here.  Don't decide to build a monster, tie up a pair and make the repeater closed to all but you and your wife and kids.  That's not proper use of the airways.  And in my opinion is a bit of a dick move.   SO lets say we are going to use that pair that you can hear a repeater on but it's very weak signal and can't always be heard.  You NEED to locate the owner of that repeater and verify where he is located.  If he's a weak station but he's right up the road, then don't use that frequency.  If he's 2 counties away, you are golden.  You need to find out what PL or DPL he is using on his repeater and NOT use anything close to that.   If he's running between 67 and 103 you want to be at a minimum at 141.3.  This will minimize the potential of interference.  You also need to verify that you are either very noisy into his repeater or you can't hit it at all from most of the footprint area you are wanting to cover.
    Now a quick side note.  Repeater talkout (how far it talks) is controlled by two things.. first is antenna height.  Height is FAR more important than power level.  But power level does play a role.  And you ONLY want to run enough power to provide signal levels in your desired coverage area to capture the receiver of a mobile or portable radio.  Meaning, if you are wanting to cover X number of square miles and that can be done with an antenna at 40 feet of height and 10 watts, Don't set the repeater up to 50 watts.  It's not necessary and again, it's not good frequency management. 
    So you now have a pair picked out.  What about a repeater?
    A repeater is required to ID unless YOU and those under YOUR license are the only ones using the repeater.  The minute that other license holders are allowed to use the repeater, it needs to ID itself.  Now this can be done with a Raspberry Pi, an Arduino or some specific module for CW ID.  You have options.  You can use two mobile radios as a repeater with a cable between them and an ID board.  You are not required to have voice announcements, roger beeps or any of that.  So it can be a simple set of radios.  (Motorola CDM series work great and the 16 pin interface makes connecting them very easy).  Or you can buy a repeater that is a purpose built device.  There are a number of options. 
     
    More to come.... stay tuned.
     
     
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    WSAD847 reacted to rdunajewski in National Net on the Last Sunday of Every Month   
    Recently we have begun holding the National GMRS Net once per month on the last Sunday of each month. This is due to reduced interest in holding a weekly net, and due to quickly running out of fresh topics to discuss.
    We will still link each regional hub together nationally each week during the same time period, but won't hold the net on the other weeks. Feel free to chat on Sunday evenings and make distant contacts during this time, but also please be mindful to not hog the repeater system so others can jump in there and participate as well.
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    WSAD847 reacted to WRXB215 in New to Front Range GMRS Introduction   
    Welcome Ric! Hope you enjoy myGMRS.com
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