SvenMarbles

Yeah man.. a wireless pad phone charger isn't an authorized or intentional radiator on 780am, is it.. And it's not industrial, scientific and medical (ISM) equipment.

I don't get it..

Yeah you too

I don't pretend to know the FCC codes front to back, so I looked that up. https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-47/chapter-I/subchapter-A/part-15/subpart-A/section-15.5 I'm also not a lawyer. But I don't even see what part of that makes it so that I have to just DEAL. Man whatever. Not trying to start fights with goofs on here any more. Maybe you just didn't think i'd look. You'll "quote FCC rules" and I should've just been like "whoa, the important man has spoken". Go jump in a lake..

Good lawd.. Ok god bless you...

Everyone out here these days is making Aliexpress NOISE. But since I know what radio is, I gotta be the one to pipe down?

Hey do I get t bit*h when my neighbor over here has some Chinese wireless pad phone charger that's putting hash all over my AM? What authorities do I need to notify?

You think so? Those people who are just doing their vanilla life thing watching TV and stuff? They're going to have their spectrum analyzers out just friggin policing the RF floating by? Hey I'll tell you what.. When I get that knock on my door from that neighbor I just made a new friend anyway..

I wouldn't, because I know how this stuff actually works in practice. Especially on Terra Firma. 50mw will get a block or so away on UHF, and as an "untoned" signal, it's not getting into any public safety systems' comms for example. I use a HackRF with a 20mw transmitter as a piece of test equipment. If I barely leave the room with it, it's ineffective. 5 watts is 5000mw. That's,.. not the same. Also there's that whole ABSOLUTELY pure line of sight that sat comms enjoy. Yes 5 watts will go into the sky forever. But it won't leave your neighborhood past the dirt hill 2 miles away..

Spurs on harmonics, even on the dirtiest Baofeng aren't a factor, They're 50mw worst case scenario, and they aren't going to bug anything of significance.

I've got 1 Baofeng UV5R in particular that I bought in like 2013 and it's been my "knock around radio" since then. It was cheap and didn't care about it getting ruined. It's the one that got wet, dropped, given to people I didn't trust (), etc.. Guess what, it STILL serves that role after 11 years. The only thing wrong with it is that the backlight doesn't work anymore. I'd say I got my $17 worth in 2013 dollars. So, as far as "Chinese crap radios" go. That's a case study. I was an early adopter of these things and I'm still waiting for one to not turn on and work, even after abuse. The hams will get upset that they have harmonics. Whatever. The batteries are even pretty great. Charge one up and don't turn it on for a year, and see if it doesn't still have 4 bars when you do . It's a great radio for the "emergency kits". Nothing wrong with doing a Chinese radio thing. They do the radio thing.. And maybe they're not "as good" as some $150+ radios, but the law of diminishing returns kicks in real quick after $40.

No it's like a whole other thing. The Quansheng UVK5 series radios have user flashable firmware capability from the USB-C port so a whole little community of developers on github are developing new firmwares that really improve and open the radio up. There are some videos on Youtube about it. They're $30 radios like the Baofengs are, so it's just become a fun little side bar hobby to get one and play around with these different things people are doing to them..

Sounds like a ton of fun. I'm jealous. You'll do fine with GMRS radios of any measure on your property. If my mental image of your agricultural property reflects reality it's going to be no problem for a kit of straightforward HTs doing simplex. Maybe all choose an agreed upon frequency and a tone as a family, just to sort of have "a private channel". If you want to get a repeater up to get off of the farm and into town, just do that Retevis thing and make yourself a nice mast up high somewhere. It's all about height. Higher the better. If you want to get out further, figure out how to get it even higher. Don't sweat radio power. It's the most overly discussed aspect of things on UHF radio, and it's almost not even a factor. 5 watts up high beats 50 in a hole all day long.. Another option for an ULTRA cheap repeater is a simplex repeater. It's just a real simple deal. It's a box that connects to a radio that you just set out somewhere (again, preferably really high), and it'll just sit there in the middle of comms, and record everything said, then spit it back out afterwards. They can be annoying if you're in range to hear both transmissions, but they do work very well and the simple nature of it means there's not much that can fail. Easily and quickly deployable for temporary type things. It could be a short term option if you don't want to spend on that full duplex repeater box quite yet.. You could get all of this done on just a couple hundred bucks worth of Chinese stuff..

No worries man. I’m not going to bug you. I will say that I “got goofy” in the way I carried on. And,.. I probably wouldn’t choose the same language choices that I did before going forward. I carried some heat over from a completely separate discussion than was happening in this forum and brought it here. The context of it was entirely in my own mind, apart from anything going on here, so it’s no wonder why it seemed “extra”. Aside from that though, I pretty much don’t retract anything that I’ve said. Midland radios aren’t better radios than a lot of Chinese brands. They, themselves, are in fact Chinese radios. And not even the best ones of them. I don’t believe that you bench tested the MTX and a KG-1000 and that they had comparable sensitivity marks. What your motivation for claiming that is,.. I won’t speculate. But I also won’t be pain in your a** about it going forward. If you feel compelled to show something concrete about it (video), then I’ll gladly lay myself bare and all such things… But if not, also fine. We can just get on with everything else and we don’t need to even bring it up anymore.

Just curious . it’s become a bit of a separate hobby of it’s own with the aftermarket firmwares. Pretty cool.

Not anyone. But “some people”..

So here’s the deal. I genuinely don’t GAF about cliques in any of this stuff. Some of us can just stay out of each other’s way. Take the merch or paid speaking engagements from midland dealers. Enjoy… I’m just going to shoot straight as a person who uses and enjoys radios in my exploits for no other type of gain aside from personal use and enjoyment. To be fair, I’ll re-name this thread “I don’t think Midland Radios are very good”. If you want to fight with me over that, we can. But it’ll be risky.

Let’s just say that Midland’s pockets run deep and some of us here in the “influence sphere” are affected. Some people here are a part of the “Midland Ambassador Program”. And I made the mistake of pissing that off..

The CTCSS and DCS only serve the purpose of "breaking things open". Both the repeaters and your radio. Once they have, traffic flows. Nothing is wrong with anything, aside from the poor coordination of the parties running those repeaters. We have a couple of repeaters doing that to eachother in my area as well. I think that the root of the problem is that when the FCC laid out the band plan for GMRS with the 8 repeater pairs, they didn't expect people to go "full ham radio club" and put things on towers that get out forever. So in some regions it's getting to be problematic.

I had every intention of offering the mia culpa. More information came to light and I've decided to sit tight.

As an aside from this topic directly. I've read that the ARRL lobby is working in the courts to make it illegal for HOAs to tell people that they're not allowed to have antennas. It could become a non-factor in the near future...

What sort of traffic is it?

I re-read your post and i think you're actually calling the tone searcher and bother-er the DH. Yes. You're correct and on my team..

It's not a d***head thing to be on a tone simplex.. People forget that the purpose of GMRS isn't the big social club thing. It's for parties to use, sometimes for practical things.. It's what most of GMRS SHOULD be.. it's. not. ham. radio. That reminder is needed more than it should be..